Radio Chatter

[Dj Hammers]

If I were you I wouldn't put real NYCTA transmissions on BVE content.

If you wish, we can record some simulated radio chatter on teamspeak. That is the best thing to do really.

[Dr. Subway18]

After consulting with an friend of mine (NYPD), it's illegal but with a double-edged sword type of illegal.  As known, people no matter what will listen on to radio chatters of various channels.  But to record and distribute is highly illegal without authorization, meaning a signed legal document stating it was allowed.  Thus also forging such documents are also highly illegal.

The person you were talking to may have said it was fine, but you probably misunderstood the statement as they wouldn't know if you were listening to them or not over their channels; unless they were really cracking down on you.  I still highly suggest you do not record and implement them to a route.

Another note, you said you contacted the source of recording?  Unless the source was approved by the FCC or FCC themselves, I wouldn't take their word for it.  Remember, in most cases like these, FCC rules over whatever rule MTA might allow or disallow according to radio transmissions.

Ill just keep that in mind, i can ask a Sergent here at the FCC fort Gordon communications, if he says its legal then ill ask MTA maby, if they say yes then ill use them for personal use. if that is a fact with FCC rules then Absolutely no conversation can be recorded even if its for only a simulator purpose. if you say its a personal convo then once it gets in the air FCC can rule it. and Owner Has written signature from MTA so this would be more of a FCC/ NYPD law. NYPD is super strict, i would expect that from a police state thou. If the FCC says its OK ill personally take a trip to  Atlanta and ask MARTA first hand can i use their audio for trainsim/subway Sim purposes ONLY. then everything will be legal. The source of the audio comes from MTA itself because scanning and recording is illegal. The party that has it has MTAs offical written authorization to use it

[Dr. Subway18]

If I were you I wouldn't put real NYCTA transmissions on BVE content.

If you wish, we can record some simulated radio chatter on teamspeak. That is the best thing to do really.

I agree, it was just a thing i was thinking and it got really interesting. but do you have simulated conversations already? do you know how to put them in the cab only? or would you have to put them in the line itself?

[Dr. Subway18]

The FCC rules for FRS and GMRS frequencies apply to the territorial United States. If you use these radios in another country's jurisdiction, you'll be subject to its laws and regulations.

 so in a nut shell whatever NY says gos but only in NY they can rule. I think ill  get some recordings from MARTA (Metro Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority) if they sound good and im allowed to by them.

[YankeesPwnMets]

Title 47 of the US Code, Chapter 5, Subchapter VI, Section 605 part six (6) states that

on demand of other lawful authority. No person not being authorized by the sender shall intercept any radio communication and divulge or publish the existence, contents, substance, purport, effect, or meaning of such intercepted communication to any person. No person not being entitled thereto shall receive or assist in receiving any interstate or foreign communication by radio and use such communication (or any information therein contained) for his own benefit or for the benefit of another not entitled thereto. No person having received any intercepted radio communication or having become acquainted with the contents, substance, purport, effect, or meaning of such communication (or any part thereof) knowing that such communication was intercepted, shall divulge or publish the existence, contents, substance, purport, effect, or meaning of such communication (or any part thereof) or use such communication (or any information therein contained) for his own benefit or for the benefit of another not entitled thereto. This section shall not apply to the receiving, divulging, publishing, or utilizing the contents of any radio communication which is transmitted by any station for the use of the general public, which relates to ships, aircraft, vehicles, or persons in distress, or which is transmitted by an amateur radio station operator or by a citizens band radio operator.

There are some exceptions to this rule in part B
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000605----000-.html

However, I'm pretty sure the media breaks this rule every day

[peacemak3r]

The media does, but usually doesn't exploit to the public.  I believe that's how news crews gets to incidents quickly by listening to the police chatter.