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Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« on: May 08, 2011, 10:59:13 am »
I am announcing all of Staten Island Subway lines are being reworked on and revised

This line will be base on History these routes was originally proposed in 1922 but never built (actually the sections of the tunnel was built)

The Southfeild Avenue Line
4 layup tracks will start from fith Avenue and 67th Street, Brooklyn as a subway
thence along 67th Street to fouth Avenue to marge with 2 other tracks connection
at 3rd Avenue from Fourth Avenue subway at 61 street to 67th street thence to be
continued on 67th street then under Narrows to Bay street Staten Island, and
thence through bay street to nixon street, thence to be continued as a two
three-track elevated line through Bay Street, Southfield Avenue to Reynolds
street, thence through private property for about 2500ft to Clove Road, thence
through new road being built called Louisiana Road to Old Town Road, back to
thence through Southfield Avenue to
Barclay Avenue, thence through private property (that farmland park soon be
extension of Southfield Avenue and new road named Tiffany Road) to Amboy Road
thence through Amboy Road to end of Staten Island in tottenville then back as a
subway under Arthor Kill to Perth Amboy, New Jersey.
It was decided it won’t take over SIR Tottenville Railway from B & O instead IND Tottenville-Perth Amboy line will parallel SIR Tottenville line due to Governor Al Smith wanted to keep SIR Tottenville for freight service.
[Notice Southfeild Avenue was renamed Hylan Blvd.]

SIR North Shore Line
It would have Branches off at ST George then curve North on ST Mark Place to Westervelt Avenue as a 3 track subway line, then would have emerged to follow the SIR North Shore ROW to Port Ivory, then to Elizabeth NJ, 2 tracks to Elizabeth New Jersey. But only 2 stations was built to New Brighton-Jersey St and also it was built as a 2 track line instead of 3 tracks.

History (fictional)
Under this 1913 Dual Contract Proposal the City and BMT wanted to expended
Dual Contracts to Staten Island but in early 1920's Mayor John F. Hylan tried to
block the construction from going through or from being completed even through
construction has started in two places, one in Dec 1917 at Huguenot Av on Amboy
Road (that was before he came in office) and other place in June 1922 at 67th
Street near 1st Ave, due to also he made sure that any other remaining portions
of the Dual Contracts that were still not built at the time would not get built
during his tenure at City Hall. There was no way that he would spend City money
for the private traction interests. But the NY Governor Al Smith and his state
legislators took BMT side when it comes to building a subway line in Staten
Island because they felt that Richmond County (Staten Island) need a subway line
really bad. So in 1924 a compromise was reached between BMT, City hall and NY
state legislators regarding to continue construction building subway/elevated
line in Staten Island. Then City hall and NY state legislators made BMT change
the length of the station platforms to 600ft from 530ft before construction can
be completed at any station in Staten Island by BMT agreeing to it that made it
easier for IND to take over, that was the plan behind the scenes. In 1927 when
BMT got into financial problems so they abandoned construction, then around July
1927 IND took over to finish the construction. Stations between Bay Terrace to
Perth Amboy and New York Harbor/Narrows Tunnel was constructed by BMT awhile IND
took over the rest of the stations

IND Victory boulevard
Under this 1929 IND second system proposal this line would branch off the Tottenville Line at the south end Tompkinsville station thrn curve west under Grant Street then under private property and merge as a elevated at Ward Avenue then curve south-west above Victory Blvd at Austin Place, then continues above Victory Blvd to end of Staten Island in Chelsea, then goes back underground to cross Arthur Kill River to Carteret New Jersey the line ends at Roosevelt Avenue and Beverly Street. This line was completed on June 1, 1937. Originally 85% of the route supposed to be underground (from Tompkinsville to Harvey Avenue)  then it was change to 85% of the being elevated due to being 4 times cheaper to build elevated structure as oppose to building a subway. Total cost to build this route was $32,500,000
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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 11:06:32 am »
SIR for BVE? Sounds cool!  Now we'll have use for that R44...

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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 11:35:31 am »
SIR for BVE? Sounds cool!  Now we'll have use for that R44...

This is a revision of his previously released IND Staten Island Division which includes the (H), (Q), (X), and (P) lines.

Hey Jay, could you put timers on this route to showcase how they work when TJay finishes them? It would be nice seeing the new NYCTA object packs at work in the revised Staten Island division with whatever else you're going to throw at us!
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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2011, 04:18:03 am »
here is some updates using TJay's elevated design textures thanks TJay for giving us new ideas to make our routes look better





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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2011, 08:16:29 am »
Wow!  Those look awesome!

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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 11:44:22 am »
Hopefully timers will be implemented on this in certain areas and don't give us hints ;) ;D Looks great JayJay!

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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2011, 12:58:20 pm »
Awesome work Jay!
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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2011, 08:28:50 pm »
wow those El pics look good. looks like some real els i know about that are deteriorating. nice job cant way for the updated routes to come out.

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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2011, 11:33:35 pm »
here is more updates
if you have any questions about the route feel free to ask.


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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2011, 08:08:04 pm »
Anything new from the progress of this route? Great textures so far! ;D
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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2011, 08:28:15 pm »
Mm mm those textures are gorgeous!
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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2011, 02:16:47 pm »
awesome

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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012, 08:41:11 pm »
Here more updates for first time since June 2011

Ellis Island located in Jersey City, New Jersey




Staten Island Express crosses under Victory Blvd

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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 09:21:33 pm »
Actually pretty good objects  :D take your time

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Re: Official Update Thread For The BMT/IND Staten Island
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 11:51:54 am »
I like the Statue Of Liberty setup, that was pretty cool..lol