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Title: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on June 30, 2017, 03:05:54 am
BVEStation is pretty much inactive, but nonetheless I decided to update this thread because a lot has changed in this project.
First, let's get right into the project sheet below: The 1970s NYCTA routes will be released in 3 Volumes, the first Volume will include the shortest routes such as shuttles, the second Volume will include individual routes, and finally the third will include major lines made of different routes. All of these routes will be made of completely new objects which will be common to all routes, meaning that there will be only one object folder instead of thousand of dependencies which is a f**king waste of space and time, which is EXACTLY why I gave up on turning current routes into the 1970s versions.
That said, the current development of the 1970s 8th Avenue line is abandoned (I still do random modification for videos), but the BETA of the 1973 A will still be available, so the shitty 1970s Jamaica & Nassau St Line. New version of these lines will be then made as part of the Volume 3 pack of the 1970s NYCTA routes. Right now, the 42nd Street Shuttle is being worked on, I will show it here when finished.

I kept the posts from the early days of the project, but for those who hasn't been following me or those who read this thread for the first time: trust me, things now are 100x better than the crap in the first screenshots lol. So skip right to page 8 where I will soon post screenshots of the 1970s 42nd Street Shuttle!
Note: I will only post screenshots of finished stuff since posting here is quite annoying when it comes to uploading images. If you want to follow the development of this project and other projects, go to my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGq5FJM5XWFQojJskzLYeoQ?view_as=subscriber or join the Facebook Group "North American Transit & Simulations & Development"



UPDATE: Jan 1, 2020

Project sheet:

(https://i.imgur.com/U4uTx33.png)




Download links for the Nassau St routes at page 3


Download links for the Beta 1973 A line to Euclid Av at page 7

Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on June 30, 2017, 03:53:09 pm
Ok so I started on the J and M lines since they are short and it's easy to find the corresponding texture images.

So I've changed the catwalks of the elevated section and now I'm trying to figure out how to change the third rail cover.
But I'm gonna start with the underground section since there are not so many stations, I'm working on the beams, then I will work on the platforms, and then the signs. Then I will attack the elevated stations: platforms, signs, etc. And finally I will work on the details: trains, markers and some other stuff.

(http://i.imgur.com/DdukmHN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mWpUdHB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rCE94yF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4nhfns4.jpg)
Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: R40(W)Train4286 on June 30, 2017, 07:26:33 pm
If you want i can help you along with the routes and what not, i am working on the 1980s K line with some vandaized walls, station and route signs and i might need help with the route if you would like to work together, message or email me. NICE WORK with replacing the object, i like it.
Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 01, 2017, 02:38:01 am
Thank you,  :D I've sent you a message!

Bowery - Delancey Streets
(http://i.imgur.com/qWmtkKr.jpg)

Canal - Centre streets
(http://i.imgur.com/BKpl2ZX.jpg)

Chambers - Centre Streets
(http://i.imgur.com/xQqdWEf.jpg)

Fulton - Centre Streets
(http://i.imgur.com/lGqwRBS.jpg)

And finally Broad - Wall Streets
(http://i.imgur.com/rscAPJ9.jpg)

Later I will upload the signs and the platforms, stay tuned!
Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 02, 2017, 06:45:21 am
I thought working on the markers will be fast and easy so I've done them:

(http://i.imgur.com/G0Z5Jpa.jpg)
Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 02, 2017, 10:06:30 am
Platforms and el station walls:

(http://i.imgur.com/KIpoTfd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YhVdmvx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9ifb5We.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cEpyraf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/s082j5D.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2P0EEGW.jpg)


Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 02, 2017, 01:44:54 pm
Now some signs:

(http://i.imgur.com/UYmjnXE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/98YR7Ry.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/dpTCcH9.jpg)
Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 02, 2017, 01:58:07 pm
More signs:

(http://i.imgur.com/EIiJtat.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/S1mi9Br.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MznmT8S.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NlPjRnR.jpg)
Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 02, 2017, 03:46:56 pm

Here's the preGOH R32
(http://i.imgur.com/sEWs0EN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/0rW36Ex.jpg)
Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 03, 2017, 09:57:21 am
Some other textures:
(http://i.imgur.com/qPMZAe9.jpg)

What about the M you're asking??

Don't worry:

(http://i.imgur.com/qitB0wG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/C92VAak.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/zDEasEf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VNBcpUq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8ZFuEKt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/l9p0qZv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/i1dV0V7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/62KUGwu.jpg)

More modifications coming soon
Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 03, 2017, 03:26:09 pm
Managed to change the third rail cover via the El b3d/csv files, only curves and switches aren't changed yet.
(http://i.imgur.com/AR78eBX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7K9LiOx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TNyRGhi.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/nl47cci.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9mIsoPX.jpg)

Bonus: Canal Street (needs some reworked textures)
(http://i.imgur.com/TrZSA6H.jpg)

Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 05, 2017, 08:30:47 am
More screenshots:

Cleveland St
(http://i.imgur.com/QmeK7dX.jpg)

Crescent St
(http://i.imgur.com/tupTw0N.jpg)

Tracks between Metropolitan Ave and Fresh Pond Yard
(http://i.imgur.com/OzULdzU.jpg)

M Curve before Myrtle Ave
(http://i.imgur.com/73Uk3Jv.jpg)

R42
(http://i.imgur.com/yJAffMe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TPwdtg1.jpg)
Title: Re: 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: WizDaGamer on July 05, 2017, 10:11:55 pm
More screenshots:

Cleveland St
(http://i.imgur.com/QmeK7dX.jpg)

Crescent St
(http://i.imgur.com/tupTw0N.jpg)

Tracks between Metropolitan Ave and Fresh Pond Yard
(http://i.imgur.com/OzULdzU.jpg)

M Curve before Myrtle Ave
(http://i.imgur.com/73Uk3Jv.jpg)

R42
(http://i.imgur.com/yJAffMe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TPwdtg1.jpg)


👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 13, 2017, 03:02:42 pm
Sorry that I didn't upload anything during that week, I was working on something else, here I decided to upgrade the catwalk and El platform textures, that I'm still working on sometimes.
And there's still a little more stuff to change.

(http://i.imgur.com/FmcAfHZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/AOHRqKD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tU695Po.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8tOGkD0.jpg)

Bonus: an R42 M train
(http://i.imgur.com/9FW5AMo.jpg)
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: NYCT_Railer on July 18, 2017, 10:16:52 am
Looks pretty good, Old and Rustic    8)
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 18, 2017, 01:46:31 pm
Thank you!
The platforms are finally done, as well as the beamsigns; the 3rd rail cover has been changed on the whole elevated section, and the 3rd rail itself has realistic textures.

(http://i.imgur.com/N1QvEcz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/uabVXSf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5Q0XIi5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MD5VVKs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MC8BUeK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QwHKQFC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yN2jAfu.jpg)



Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 23, 2017, 03:28:25 pm
So here are the buses, beams and the beamsigns themselves:

(http://i.imgur.com/f2OwE74.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8fWMYhQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xrKq3lp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/nlkbqCX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JbCZCbJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Sdg98iv.jpg)
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 29, 2017, 09:28:14 am
I decided to go even further into details:

(http://i.imgur.com/YSFc4W8.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RdU1UKh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5jESQwh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wWEvUqF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PdIk2Zc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/69SIg3p.jpg)
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s A, J, M and 6 lines
Post by: Brown M train on July 29, 2017, 10:33:04 pm
Wow nice job
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 30, 2017, 11:51:52 am
More screenshots:

R16 QJ train arriving Crescent Street:
(http://i.imgur.com/nClLUx3.jpg)

R16 QJ train at Eastern Parkway:
(http://i.imgur.com/hQ9Vu0V.jpg)

R16 QJ train at Myrtle Avenue:
(http://i.imgur.com/1XFueOq.jpg)

R16 J train at Chambers Street:
(http://i.imgur.com/AVZBzdn.jpg)

R16 M train signed as a MM departing the W.I.P Metropolitan Ave:
(http://i.imgur.com/aNuhL1T.jpg)

R16 M train signed as a MM arriving Wyckoff Avenue:
(http://i.imgur.com/Ov7AMgK.jpg)
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: Brown M train on July 30, 2017, 01:35:29 pm
This is coming along really great keep up  the great work :)
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on July 30, 2017, 03:54:51 pm
This is coming along really great keep up  the great work :)
Thank you! :)
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on August 09, 2017, 04:28:56 pm
UPDATE: The routes are finally done, but I'm currently working on an extra route and I will have to test them all; and then they will be ready to be uploaded in a week or more depending on how the development goes, but since I will not be able to upload them like that because apparently BVE Station is running out of ressources and I will have to contact an admin, the release will actually be longer than you expect.
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: bigbellymon4 on August 09, 2017, 06:14:17 pm
The routes look really awesome. Take your time and have fun while developing them  8) 8) You can also create a MediaFire account, upload them there, post the link for the files here. Many developers share their files via MediaFire these days.
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on August 12, 2017, 04:09:51 am
The routes look really awesome. Take your time and have fun while developing them  8) 8) You can also create a MediaFire account, upload them there, post the link for the files here. Many developers share their files via MediaFire these days.
Thank you! I will think about that!
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on September 04, 2017, 01:56:21 am
Hi! I'm sorry I didn't upload anything for a while. I've been busy retexturing trains and just got my new gaming pc, and now I need to transfer all my BVE content and other games from my old pc which is gonna take ages. Therefore I'm managing to keep working on the MM and KK to 57th St (textures, stairs, signs) and then finally all the announcements. I'm gonna upload screenshots soon, stay tuned!
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on September 07, 2017, 01:27:25 am
Working on the 6th Ave Stations! 34th , 42nd , 50th and 57th Streets are nearly done! Just need to add new station signs on 34th and 42nd Streets;

(https://i.imgur.com/O1CcVCY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6Xd1O1w.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/u9FhcGZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/h8nTmKc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kK8CIMP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0OotVkf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aT57oL4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OlmN49P.jpg)
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: bigbellymon4 on September 07, 2017, 08:39:02 pm
Working on the 6th Ave Stations! 34th , 42nd , 50th and 57th Streets are nearly done! Just need to remove the escalator at 34th and add new station signs on 34th and 42nd Streets;

It is amazing seeing the change in how stations look from past to the current look they have. It it is even better now as everyone can understand the history of the system through your routes. Truly amazing work here!!!
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SP1900 on September 08, 2017, 10:12:49 am
This is remarkable work you've done!!, If only there were pre-GOH R40/R40A/R42 trains around for people to drive here, they should be the default trains for the routes, You have paid attention to every detail I see. Very good
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on September 08, 2017, 10:46:28 am
This is remarkable work you've done!!, If only there were pre-GOH R40/R40A/R42 trains around for people to drive here, they should be the default trains for the routes, You have paid attention to every detail I see. Very good
Thank you so much! At least the R16 and R30s would be the default trains for these routes, but William (BVEMudwrestle) is still working on the Pre GOH R40 series, don't worry about that, and I believe they will be released soon, hopefully. A friend of his told me I made him want to make his trains faster haha! There are quite a lot of pre goh trains in development and released but there are not on BVE station unfornatunately.
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on September 09, 2017, 12:31:48 pm
More progress! - Improved 34th Street Station,
                       -23rd Street station is done,
                       -14th Street station is almost finished!

(https://i.imgur.com/JtDcAUy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MtOmm2l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hsAPvj4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qj8GywV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UfEJ39o.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RteNqVJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dX3w0HD.jpg)
Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on September 12, 2017, 04:21:14 pm
The routes are now done!!! Here are screenshots of West 4th Street, B'way Lafayette Stations and my new R27 I retextured. The Brightness has been fixed don't worry: I took these screenshots yesterday.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZHWAap1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OYG4nnV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wkL0rEF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zFpzkFm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c0S1jmq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nKIbU4R.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Q5DBMHn.jpg)


I'm working on the announcements which is gonna take quite a while (maximum a week) but with school.... it's gonna be hard. But I'll try my best!


Title: Re: (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on September 24, 2017, 06:44:26 pm
 I'm proud to release my modified 70s Jamaica & Nassau Street Routes!!!

Thank you for your patience and enjoy!

(https://i.imgur.com/blxUGUp.png)

Object: https://www.mediafire.com/file/hia7psn2qt8vgux/Object.rar

Route: http://www.mediafire.com/file/y3z7lzqg90zde89/1970s_Jamaica%2C_Nassau_St_%26_6th_Ave_Routes.rar   (UPDATED)
 
Sound: http://www.mediafire.com/file/9nik8tpx3yahv9t/1972_JAMAICA.rar    (UPDATED)


NOTE: 1) Please read the "instructions & informations" text file for the credits and other important stuff!

2) The reason why the object folder is big is because I put the LisaRaye 2 and other objects inside the "1972KK" that I will use for I think all the future 70s routes, don't worry I will not make a lot of new object folders for each routes! But make sure to have the Culver, 8th Ave, 6th Ave, Lefshut & Lefshut1 object packs at least for the Jamaica, Nassau St & 6th Ave Lines for the signals and other minor things!

IMPORTANT!

For people who have little issues with the routes,
You should put the "1972JM" and "1972KK" folders in the Object folder.
you should put the "1970s Jamaica & Nassau St Routes" folder and not just the content of it in the route folder.
You should put the "1972JAMAICA" folder and not just the content of it in the Sound folder.
I'm sure there are people out there who put all single routes and sound folders ("QJ" or "KK" for example) in the directory and same for the announcements, and are experiencing some issues with the routes.

NEXT ROUTES I WILL START WORKING ON SOON: A, AA, CC & HH
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SP1900 on September 25, 2017, 01:45:32 pm
Great Job! I love the attention to detail. If only there was a Pre-GOH r40 or R42 to run it with
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on September 25, 2017, 05:25:42 pm
Great Job! I love the attention to detail. If only there was a Pre-GOH r40 or R42 to run it with
Thank you! Yeah I agree those are my favorite trains. I might talk with William to ask him if I can develop the trains with him so it would be faster! Not sure if he'll accept but I'll try my best. Stay tuned for the 8th Ave Lines!
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: MP89 on September 25, 2017, 07:10:59 pm
Nice work you did here ! It's nice to drive through that Era even if I'm young
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on September 26, 2017, 03:14:27 am
Nice work you did here ! It's nice to drive through that Era even if I'm young
Indeed. Not gonna lie I'm 16 myself and I'm in love with the 60s - 70s. I can't wait to make all the routes on my list especially the CC and F
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 01, 2017, 11:24:49 am
UPDATE!

An unexpected small update for the Nassau St Routes that:
-Fix some missing announcements (not all of them because there are some I really couldn't fix).
-Fix speed limits for those who want to ride the AI and experienced near/derailments at some curves & switches.
-Adds a new fictional scenario: 1976 JFK Express: Eastern Parkway - 57th Street.
That will be the last update before the extension to 168th Street after I finish all the 70s routes I'm planning!

Links in the original post!

Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 02, 2017, 08:31:25 am
Starting to work the A  ;D ! This time I will try to make the route as realistic as I can!

(https://i.imgur.com/MUsddsT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/d1OV4CM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Az4iUJD.jpg)
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: MP89 on October 02, 2017, 05:18:39 pm
Sadly it doesn’t works on Mac ☹️
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 03, 2017, 05:25:47 am
Sadly it doesn’t works on Mac ☹️
Really? Does the original J,M, Z routes work on it at least? Or are you saying that the A will not work on Mac?
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SP1900 on October 03, 2017, 03:29:19 pm
Sadly it doesn’t works on Mac ☹️
Strange since I use a mac and the route and train come out fine
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 03, 2017, 03:55:10 pm
Huge progress on the Inwood, Washington Heights and Harlem sections:

Dyckman Street:
(https://i.imgur.com/0077Vof.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4FrjyyC.jpg)

190th Street:
(https://i.imgur.com/8SFXP89.jpg)

181st Street:
(https://i.imgur.com/EOW0aJ5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dIF3vvv.jpg)

175th Street -G.W. Bridge - Bus Terminal:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZLWKkaZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qrQFfA3.jpg)


168th Street:
(https://i.imgur.com/KVkA2HC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HHHvoQL.jpg)

145th Street:
(https://i.imgur.com/xWRmwNj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FiADx1c.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lRbVGmC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/j0Ryqis.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/E9pYNMe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NKCNHtK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/n9fhm4n.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EOMFaKX.jpg)
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: R40(W)Train4286 on October 03, 2017, 07:05:22 pm
 :D :D :D :D I like the work on the 1970s Nassau and 8th Avenue Subway BMT and IND Routes. I hope to operate the IND 8th Avenue one soon BD!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: Simon on October 04, 2017, 12:51:59 am
Very nice! Looking forward to more progress!
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 04, 2017, 07:39:55 am
:D :D :D :D I like the work on the 1970s Nassau and 8th Avenue Subway BMT and IND Routes. I hope to operate the IND 8th Avenue one soon BD!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thank you! I will work as fast as possible! I can't wait to operate on the A, AA, HH and especially the CC from Bedford Pk to the Rockaways myself  ^^, I'm so excited!

And note that the A will have different scenarios as well, these are the ones I intend to do:

-1970: A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Middays or Weekends, 8 Ave Express & Fulton St local
           A (207th Street - Lefferts Blvd) Rush Hours 8 Ave, Express & Fulton Street local

-1973: A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Middays or Weekends, 8 Ave Express & Fulton St local
           A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Rush Hours, 8 Ave Express & Fulton St Express (the one I'm currently working)

-1977: A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Late nights, 8 Ave Local & Fulton St Local

Very nice! Looking forward to more progress!
Thank you, I hope as well!
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: MP89 on October 04, 2017, 12:51:09 pm
Strange since I use a mac and the route and train come out fine

Yeah very strange because I can run all the NYCT routes and .exe but not this
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SP1900 on October 04, 2017, 02:22:45 pm
Thank you! I will work as fast as possible! I can't wait to operate on the A, AA, HH and especially the CC from Bedford Pk to the Rockaways myself  ^^, I'm so excited!

And note that the A will have different scenarios as well, these are the ones I intend to do:

-1970: A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Middays or Weekends, 8 Ave Express & Fulton St local
           A (207th Street - Lefferts Blvd) Rush Hours 8 Ave, Express & Fulton Street local

-1973: A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Middays or Weekends, 8 Ave Express & Fulton St local
           A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Rush Hours, 8 Ave Express & Fulton St Express (the one I'm currently working)

-1977: A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Late nights, 8 Ave Local & Fulton St Local
Thank you, I hope as well!
Hey, good luck with the routes. Anyway, have you managed to get through to William about the pre GOH trains?
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 04, 2017, 04:04:26 pm
Hey, good luck with the routes. Anyway, have you managed to get through to William about the pre GOH trains?
Thank you!. And not yet, I'll try later cause I've been busy on the A and sick at the same time this weekend but I'll try my best because we really need a lot of pre GOH trains with the upcoming routes I'm making.
Yeah very strange because I can run all the NYCT routes and .exe but not this
Are the original J M & Z lines working with you, these particular ones? If yes, then that's really weird, I have honestly no idea what caused the 70s Nassau St Lines to not work on Mac, I based myself on the original routes and all I did was editing them, change textures and objects. So I can't find a way to fix this unfornatunately.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 04, 2017, 04:23:02 pm
135th Street is done, 125th is near completion

(https://i.imgur.com/QMhgyea.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/J9VUuWV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kX0Hs0G.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/O1EHDVi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WaMbQY5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fTP9f07.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VWSlMl4.jpg)

Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: MP89 on October 04, 2017, 06:01:19 pm
Yep all the routes are working it's weird
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 05, 2017, 01:14:52 am
Yep all the routes are working it's weird
Hmmm the least I can suggest is to put a copy of the DS Store file in my routes folders. But I'm not sure at all if they'll work. Because I saw this file so many times and they are almost always in objects, routes, and sounds folders, but I don't know what this file is for and never asked myself this question but maybe that's the cause.
Otherwise I don't have any ideas at the moment.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: arremm1 on October 05, 2017, 12:12:12 pm
Nice work.  One question:  Where can I get the train sets for these routes.  I know That I can run any train set in Open BVE, but I wanted to run them as they were meant to be run.  Thanks
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 05, 2017, 02:00:50 pm
Nice work.  One question:  Where can I get the train sets for these routes.  I know That I can run any train set in Open BVE, but I wanted to run them as they were meant to be run.  Thanks
Go on the download page, and look for the R16 train (Olive or Silver & Blue paint scheme), the R30 (same paint scheme as the R16), the pre GOH R32, the R38 (includes both post GOH and pre GOH versions), the pre GOH R44 (which should include the 1972 version if I remember) and the pre GOH R46 as well.
If you are wondering what means "pre GOH", it means "before genaral overhaul program" that occurred in the late 1980s, in which the TA has rebuilt their trains that some of them still run today: the R32, the R42 and the R46 for example. Other old trains are either preserved or were scrapped.
Don't use the R44 or the R46 on the Nassau St Routes, because 75ft long cars can't run on them, well they can in the game but if you want to run them as they were meant to run, don't use them, save them for the A line lol
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: MP89 on October 05, 2017, 08:00:08 pm
Hmmm the least I can suggest is to put a copy of the DS Store file in my routes folders. But I'm not sure at all if they'll work. Because I saw this file so many times and they are almost always in objects, routes, and sounds folders, but I don't know what this file is for and never asked myself this question but maybe that's the cause.
Otherwise I don't have any ideas at the moment.

I send you a PM 😉
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 06, 2017, 03:11:21 am
I added this in the post with the download links, but I'll put it here as well

IMPORTANT!

For people who have little issues with the routes,
You should put the "1972JM" and "1972KK" folders in the Object folder.
you should put the "1970s Jamaica & Nassau St Routes" folder and not just the content of it in the route folder.
You should put the "1972JAMAICA" folder and not just the content of it in the Sound folder.
I'm sure there are people out there who put all single routes and sound folders ("QJ" or "KK" for example) in the directory and same for the announcements, and are experiencing some issues with the routes.

MP89, that excludes you, but make sure to check what I just stated above, maybe that's one of the reasons why the routes aren't working, along with what I told you in the PM I just sent you.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SP1900 on October 06, 2017, 12:08:47 pm
I gotta post updates for trains i'm doing How do I add pictures?
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 06, 2017, 12:19:25 pm
I gotta post updates for trains i'm doing How do I add pictures?
Go on imgur.com, make a new post and select your picture, once it's loaded, click the little arrow on the top right corner on your picture, then select "Copy link" and then a window will open with 4 links, copy the BBCode or whatever it is called one for the forums, and then paste the link in your thread. There you go.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SP1900 on October 06, 2017, 01:18:10 pm
Thanks
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: TheOne10118 on October 06, 2017, 03:36:34 pm
Why not work on the 1970s LL as well?
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 06, 2017, 04:17:37 pm
Why not work on the 1970s LL as well?
Because I don't know how to build routes at the moment, and the current L route is not that realistic (straight switches, curves). Sure I can try to fix the route and try to make something good of it, but I'll have to think about it, the only route I will build is the Culver Shuttle since it is an easy and short line. That will train me for making the Jamaica Avenue, Rockaway Park and Nassau St to Coney Island via tunnel extensions in the future, and maybe the L train if I will not be able to fix the current one, unless a better version of the route come out in the future. Remember I'm just basing myself of the original released routes, all I do is retexture the objects and editing the routes
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SimCentral on October 07, 2017, 12:25:41 am
http://www.mediafire.com/file/nit8ra1255gy3xw/Culver+Shuttle.7z
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 07, 2017, 03:29:45 am
http://www.mediafire.com/file/nit8ra1255gy3xw/Culver+Shuttle.7z
Oh I never knew someone already made it. Thank you! Well, should I consider it as released?

EDIT: The route needs some modifications anyways, need to add station signs and more details especially for 9th Avenue Station. I'll work on it when I'll be on the F route.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 07, 2017, 11:07:13 am
125th Street:
(https://i.imgur.com/5DXUh1m.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/I1WW438.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OH70zDh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qj9hSQv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ul3pKUA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mqqFrdU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iz4oehE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yqcIDDK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/S27Skhz.jpg)

116th Street:
(https://i.imgur.com/A8D858V.jpg)

110th Street:
(https://i.imgur.com/4DL3GTv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ul2qZIG.jpg)

I don't think posting all the stations to 59th Street because they might all look the same.

A little bonus: Fully handmade signs, when I don't find any real textures:
(https://i.imgur.com/gzyoppq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BldzRGb.jpg)

Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 08, 2017, 04:43:23 am
Some little updates:

Token selling booth at Dyckman Street:
(https://i.imgur.com/tNcDpMV.jpg)

An emergency exit gate at 135th Street:
(https://i.imgur.com/syn3jfo.jpg)

A staircase:
(https://i.imgur.com/e0p5RXH.jpg)

And finally a CPW Local route sign:
(https://i.imgur.com/vdncJDj.jpg)

I'm planning to update all the station beams, stay tuned!





Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 08, 2017, 03:53:19 pm
59th Street is completed:

(https://i.imgur.com/zTQSLER.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gmuW3DC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mkyduF0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BXNCiRm.jpg)
The R16 CC and R42 A trains are also animated ^^
(https://i.imgur.com/8BinlbF.jpg)


Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: Simon on October 09, 2017, 12:06:52 am
This looks VERY impressive! Great job! A lot of effort put into it.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 09, 2017, 11:31:06 am
This looks VERY impressive! Great job! A lot of effort put into it.
Thank you! And yeah. I'm just realizing how better could I have made the Nassau St Lines but I will make an update after my last 70s route, including the 168th Street - 121st Street extension and the M to Coney Island via Brighton
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 14, 2017, 06:21:26 am
Here are the 50th St, 42nd St - PABT & Stil WIP 34th St stations:

(https://i.imgur.com/PGgfLOE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tJCcCAa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/s2rS3AZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RiRJzRE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/02oQhas.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LL3kZF2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/L0K38Ru.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QoxNXtZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2Ah9Nce.jpg)

Stay tuned for more!
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 15, 2017, 06:12:18 am
34th Street is finally completed, however I didn't find any textures for the wall tile, so it might change, if I don't find any textures, I'll keep the current one.

(https://i.imgur.com/YcZjcOv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2TwpDye.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IZJtQUl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0h41Q42.jpg)

I decided as well to add some scenarios to my "to do list", including the A to Rockaway Park. I will maybe add to Euclid Ave scenarios but not sure at all, it's already a lot work here:

-1969 to 1973: A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Middays or weekends and late nights, 8 Ave express & Fulton St local
                       A (207th Street - Lefferts Blvd) Rush hours, 8 Ave express & Fulton Street local

-1973 to 1977: A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Middays or weekends and late nights, 8 Ave express & Fulton St local
                       A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Rush hours, 8 Ave express & Fulton St express (the one I'm currently working on)
                       A (207th Street - Rockaway Park) Middays or weekends and late nights, 8 Ave express & Fulton St local
                       A (207th Street - Rockaway Park) Rush hours, 8 Ave express & Fulton St express
                       A (207th Street - Lefferts Blvd) Middays or weekends and late nights, 8 Ave express & Fulton St local
                       A (207th Street - Lefferts Blvd) Rush hours, 8 Ave express & Fulton St express


-1977 to 1979: A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Late nights, 8 Ave Local & Fulton St Local
                       A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Middays and weekends, 8 Ave express & Fulton St local
                       A (207th Street - Far Rockaway) Rush hours, 8 Ave express & Fulton St express
                       A (207th Street - Rockaway Park) Late nights, 8 Ave Local & Fulton St Local
                       A (207th Street - Rockaway Park) Middays and weekends, 8 Ave express & Fulton St local
                       A (207th Street - Rockaway Park) Rush hours, 8 Ave express & Fulton St express
                       A (207th Street - Lefferts Blvd) Late nights, 8 Ave Local & Fulton St Local
                       A (207th Street - Lefferts Blvd) Middays and weekends, 8 Ave express & Fulton St local
                       A (207th Street - Lefferts Blvd) Rush hours, 8 Ave express & Fulton St express

           
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SP1900 on October 17, 2017, 02:04:04 pm
I Love the pictures!! Are you going to do the B and D and maybe the W as well?
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 17, 2017, 05:20:58 pm
I Love the pictures!! Are you going to do the B and D and maybe the W as well?
Check out the list I made on the first page, there're the B and D lines and even the TT West End line, the W never existed back then, but the RR was similar, but not planning to do it yet. But I'll add the E as well to Rockaway Park or WTC.

Working on the escalator for W4 St, not only for this station but in general for all other 70s routes. 23rd, 14th St stations are done, but I'll post them with W4 St when completed

(https://i.imgur.com/uw4P2bt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/st3mQxT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SCNSIeP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tN3IyBE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4FMyXu9.jpg)
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 18, 2017, 12:12:16 pm
The escalator is now done ^^
I'm gonna put it in W4 and finish the station itself!

(https://i.imgur.com/Q5Av7Dl.png)
(During the end of the development)

(https://i.imgur.com/oKP3UW0.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/JxvARqo.png)
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 22, 2017, 06:04:00 pm
Here are finally 23rd, 14th & W4th Street stations:

(https://i.imgur.com/d8BsqaG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6bSMDJ1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2bVre4V.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pqAckmi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cFg1k8X.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Xk1RBKp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/82MrEIV.jpg)
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on October 28, 2017, 05:42:13 am
I have good news :)

1) I found the real font used for route signs in the 1960s - 1970s, which is the Unimark International, however, I couldn't find any download so I tried to make it via an image, but it was unsuccessful, but I found another font that looks exactly the same as Unimark International and it is Akzidenz Grotesk Bold.
So I remade all the signs with this font and made them simpler, and it looks more realistic and even better. Here are a few of them:

(https://i.imgur.com/B3MAnOq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2WoW3e3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cpcQvnD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fpOjYAs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TEQqMea.jpg)

2) Since there are a lot of replies on this thread, I'd rather post less frequently and make major posts showing 10 stations, I think I don't need to make hundreds of posts for nothing, but this one was exceptional. Stay tuned for more, Canal Street is done and I'm currently at Chambers St, adding signs and other stuff.

EDIT: Sorry if the images didn't appear, I deleted the post on imgur like a dummy. I re-uploaded them
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SP1900 on October 29, 2017, 03:17:46 pm
Really good job! I reckon some weathering of the textures could be good
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on November 12, 2017, 02:32:26 pm
Okay, here we go again! Finished Spring St, Canal St, Chambers St, Broadway - Nassau St, High St, Jay St - Borough Hall and Hoyt Schermerhorn Streets, including new signs and graffiti in tunnels. The Fulton Ave branch is already being worked on. I was quite busy with school and working on some trains otherwise I would have already been at Euclid Ave at least, keep in mind that my goal here is to finish the stations and add main details such as signs, and exits. All minor details will be added at the end.
I also featured my re-textured R16 and R30s and Mudwrestle's R32/38/40/M/42 that I also re-textured/fixed for personal preference reasons.
(The R40 series are still W.I.P. and not public so don't ask for them !!!)

Spring Street:
(https://i.imgur.com/r6QqZk3.jpg)

Canal Street with R16 A train:
(https://i.imgur.com/YcSKmWK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6twkJAS.jpg)

Chambers Street - World Trade Center with R30 A train:
(https://i.imgur.com/efq0ZPw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lmAMvBv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WdS8dQN.jpg)

Broadway - Nassau Street with R32 A train:
(https://i.imgur.com/L4Cnuic.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EWZ7YZd.jpg)

High Street with R38 A train:
(https://i.imgur.com/Ov3TH59.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0gHLyV6.jpg)

Jay Street - Borough Hall with R40M-R42 A train:
(https://i.imgur.com/X7uP6jW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tZhWPaj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/S2Cb08M.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XnbeyqV.jpg)

And finally Hoyt - Schermerhorn Streets with R40 A train:
(https://i.imgur.com/opesr5E.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QiP2G2d.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yRkOaQY.jpg)

Enjoy the pics and stay tuned for Nostrand-Utica-Eastern Parkway-Euclid and Grant Avenues!!


Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SP1900 on November 13, 2017, 04:04:30 pm
Wow, Great work and how did you get the preGOH trains?
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on November 14, 2017, 02:00:10 am
Wow, Great work and how did you get the preGOH trains?
A friend of William gave me the R40 trains to complete my preGOH collection cause he also developed them with him, especially the 1980s version.
William knows that I have them so I cannot get trouble, and maybe there's a chance I can develop with William, but he didn't answer yet.
I already fixed and improved them on my side and maybe he would get satisfied with what I done with them.
Hopefully there's a chance the R40 trains will get released soon!
The R32 and R38 are released, and the R16 and R30 in the picture no because I improved and re-textured them to add graffiti and other paint schemes (just like the bright red R16 in my signature for example), and didn't release them yet
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SP1900 on November 14, 2017, 08:04:30 pm
A friend of William gave me the R40 trains to complete my preGOH collection cause he also developed them with him, especially the 1980s version.
William knows that I have them so I cannot get trouble, and maybe there's a chance I can develop with William, but he didn't answer yet.
I already fixed and improved them on my side and maybe he would get satisfied with what I done with them.
Hopefully there's a chance the R40 trains will get released soon!
The R32 and R38 are released, and the R16 and R30 in the picture no because I improved and re-textured them to add graffiti and other paint schemes (just like the bright red R16 in my signature for example), and didn't release them yet
. Lucky you. I must say I really love the touches you’ve given to the preGOH trains. I especially love the graffiti and the parts where the paint has been stripped off. Hopefully the rest of us won’t have to wait much longer for those either since I’m looking to create a preGOH train collection just like you. If you can. Can you give me a rough estimate of how much longer it will take for the routes and preGOH trains to be completed and released? Just curious. And if you need any help I can try to do a bit when I don’t have school to deal with. This is getting long but I would also like to know how did you do the announcements for the routes?
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on November 15, 2017, 03:23:49 am
. Lucky you. I must say I really love the touches you’ve given to the preGOH trains. I especially love the graffiti and the parts where the paint has been stripped off. Hopefully the rest of us won’t have to wait much longer for those either since I’m looking to create a preGOH train collection just like you. If you can. Can you give me a rough estimate of how much longer it will take for the routes and preGOH trains to be completed and released? Just curious. And if you need any help I can try to do a bit when I don’t have school to deal with. This is getting long but I would also like to know how did you do the announcements for the routes?
Thank you!
First of all, I'm reworking all the pre GOH trains I have, from the R16 to the R46, when I'll make different versions: Early 1970s, Late 1970s (Original interior with graffiti or new interior with yellow walls and interior orange doors), Early 1980s (Graffiti) and finally late 1980s before overhaul (Completely covered in Graffiti)
I'm currently at the R30 now and about to make the 1979 R30 with the new interior, and then the 1980s version. And after that move on to the R32 when I'll do exactly what I stated above
The reason why I'm doing it is to make the trains more realistic and have a large collection from different eras, so I will not get bored when running on my 70s routes. It's really complicated since every single trains were different and didn't get new interiors at the same time, it can be really confusing.
Regarding the release of these trains. I might create a new thread called "Vintage train workshop" when I'll basically show my work and share it with everyone. The thing is, all the trains are not mine: all I did was re-texturing them, so I don't know if I'll get trouble for that, I'll think about that.
Regarding the routes, if you are talking about all the routes I'm planning, it will take more than a year to finish them all. About the 8th Avenue lines including the A,AA,CC & E, it will take a bunch of months to complete them.
Regarding the announcements, I recorded them myself and added a background PA Wire sound and a intercom effect. That's it, it took a while but it was fun.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: SP1900 on November 15, 2017, 01:56:36 pm
Thank you!
First of all, I'm reworking all the pre GOH trains I have, from the R16 to the R46, when I'll make different versions: Early 1970s, Late 1970s (Original interior with graffiti or new interior with yellow walls and interior orange doors), Early 1980s (Graffiti) and finally late 1980s before overhaul (Completely covered in Graffiti)
I'm currently at the R30 now and about to make the 1979 R30 with the new interior, and then the 1980s version. And after that move on to the R32 when I'll do exactly what I stated above
The reason why I'm doing it is to make the trains more realistic and have a large collection from different eras, so I will not get bored when running on my 70s routes. It's really complicated since every single trains were different and didn't get new interiors at the same time, it can be really confusing.
Regarding the release of these trains. I might create a new thread called "Vintage train workshop" when I'll basically show my work and share it with everyone. The thing is, all the trains are not mine: all I did was re-texturing them, so I don't know if I'll get trouble for that, I'll think about that.
Regarding the routes, if you are talking about all the routes I'm planning, it will take more than a year to finish them all. About the 8th Avenue lines including the A,AA,CC & E, it will take a bunch of months to complete them.
Regarding the announcements, I recorded them myself and added a background PA Wire sound and a intercom effect. That's it, it took a while but it was fun.
. Well I wish you good luck on your project and if you need any help I can try to do something
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on November 15, 2017, 02:15:22 pm
. Well I wish you good luck on your project and if you need any help I can try to do something
Since you are very interested I can invite you to a group with friends so you can follow all my work and we can chat every time. I don't want to have a lot of posts here.
Message me and I'll let you know :)
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on November 23, 2017, 12:07:32 pm
Change of plans: Since the B and D shares 8th Avenue/CPW with A, AA and CC lines, I might directly work on them after I complete all the 8th Avenue/Rockaway routes, that will include the B from 168 St Wash Hgts or 57 St - 6 Ave, the D from 205 St Bronx and the TT. I might keep the 1967 B from West 4 St as well.
I will update the project list soon.
The Fulton St branch is still being worked on, but skateboarding with friends, school and working on my vintage train collection is really slowing down the work. The L line is halted for a moment as I can't get textures and stuff since I don't live in NY.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: NYCT_Railer on December 09, 2017, 12:31:47 pm
Nice Progress So far but... I'm unable to open none of the RAR files from the 1970s Nassau St Routes, i downloaded all the files but when i tried opening the RAR archive it said: 'Unable to open...as an archive', any help?
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on December 12, 2017, 01:02:19 pm
Nice Progress So far but... I'm unable to open none of the RAR files from the 1970s Nassau St Routes, i downloaded all the files but when i tried opening the RAR archive it said: 'Unable to open...as an archive', any help?
That's weird... I tried to download it myself and it works perfectly, no problems... Make sure to open it with WinRAR because for me the Daemon Tools logo shows up instead of the WinRAR archive logo, maybe your computer thinks that it's an archive with a different coding so it can't open it. And do you have Mac or Windows? Because someone else using Mac had a pretty similar issue.

(The Fulton St subway portion is almost completed, stay tuned for pictures very soon!)
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on December 12, 2017, 03:41:50 pm
I know it's been a while (due to school and little breaks), but here is the progress on the Fulton St line, from Lafayette to Euclid Ave (screenshots below)

Adding to that, I know that I'm working on this scenario since late September, but that doesn't mean that each scenario will take that much time. Here I was basically making all objects along the route that I will use for all remaining scenarios of the A line and other lines, the AA CC* E and HH. But regarding the A line for now, Grant Ave, the elevated portion of Fulton St and the Rockaways remain, so I will try to finish it in a week at least, then I'll do a second pass from 207th St to Far Rockaway, where I'll make miscellaneous objects (3d gates/turnstiles/emergency exits, token booths, old exits, signs, fluorescent lights...) and remake the route signs, basically adding more detail and fixing stuff; and the first scenario will be completed. Then I'll only have to make the A go local via Fulton St for other scenarios and re-place the objects, that wouldn't take much time, but I will still need to change textures for the 1968 and 1976 versions. Also don't forget that I have to make the Rockaway Park and Lefferts Blvd extension.

*The CC is a bit more special because I will have to stick the D with the C (as the CC went from Bedford Park Blvd Bronx back then) and basically make new objects for Concourse (which is gonna advance the future 1970s IND 6th Ave lines).

So here are a bunch of screenshots, ENJOY!:

(https://i.imgur.com/zBQZjsL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dafkUcI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4pD0NZH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/J0vV6GF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9NLLFMv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iQ1IZYB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Jtnw5er.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5Ogos4a.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CwFaADW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XEpXc7o.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jIRgHgh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AF9BDiF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7QwoT3l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WQGk3mi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HzQoGrO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DSS0JgF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ggOzYES.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/g7I2RGh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VkuUyk0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PXLu4XV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FjjFTvr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kz6084T.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FdEaxtq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wPPcsBd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hcBb9Ai.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/02n92Bu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/m8ARHHc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xjFrNSz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mXrG9DZ.jpg)


Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: NYCT_Railer on December 12, 2017, 04:32:36 pm
That's weird... I tried to download it myself and it works perfectly, no problems... Make sure to open it with WinRAR because for me the Daemon Tools logo shows up instead of the WinRAR archive logo, maybe your computer thinks that it's an archive with a different coding so it can't open it. And do you have Mac or Windows? Because someone else using Mac had a pretty similar issue.

(The Fulton St subway portion is almost completed, stay tuned for pictures very soon!)
i will try using Winrar I have windows 8.1 btw

Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on December 13, 2017, 01:30:07 pm
i will try using Winrar I have windows 8.1 btw
Okay let me know what happens, I'm on Windows 10 though
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on December 27, 2017, 05:10:46 pm
New Update!
As the new version of the A just got released on bveconnect.com, including new scenarios to Rockaway Park and from 207th St Yard as well, the development of the 1970s A will go faster since I don't need to make extensions myself, and of course it means new scenarios
Anyways, I decided to leave the elevated portion of Fulton St & The Rockaways (even though I already started to work on the portal and some tracks); and start detailing the whole subway portion. I'm more focusing on exits and signs for now but sometimes I'm paying attention to every detail so it makes me want to detail everything in the stations.
Enough talking, here are some screenshots:

(https://i.imgur.com/6HdyDLY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TtpX8To.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c5JNPzQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/l61dUNC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FTKL7dA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/f95m5gb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hfWHahp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kTyLieM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/i3XIavB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7hmIoLK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/y6JVEx5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/93wBXeW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NCJUSWs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yyqtUOl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zgyanAB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ruUWgQ2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/t84p9JL.jpg)

Since you already know what I'm basically doing I don't think I will post pics of the other stations unless it's something big (like Dyckman St and 190 St)
So stay tuned
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on January 06, 2018, 04:28:13 am
I have to post these pics haha:

190 St: Fixed the exit to Fort Tryon Park sign (I put Fort TYRON before), and put an exit only Iron Maiden replacing the slamgate.

(https://i.imgur.com/m1oC8F4.jpg)

181 St: Made a new mezzanine:

(https://i.imgur.com/JbunFtQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oUbNtO2.jpg)

175 St: Nothing special, just 3d stairways and new mapboards:

(https://i.imgur.com/w0bTZ8S.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8sxtMjY.jpg)


168 St: New gate stairways, Downtown express/local and exit signs as well as new High Res route signs, and dumsters:

(https://i.imgur.com/FrBGMtl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eBbrcN8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MB5zXGm.jpg)


145 St: Completely improved, escalators, double stairways, improved signs, new exit signs, pillars, High res route signs...:

(https://i.imgur.com/6DYy3R8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ClusIua.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4ZcBAGi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IvXcR23.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JyYOhRc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z6NtyKz.jpg)

125 St: Divider, light bulbs and new High Res route signs, basically I'm making new High Res route signs, making them realistic and genuine, that can make you go back in time instantly

(https://i.imgur.com/jaKXXsS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qaYME44.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YjjeqYr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aZ07R5R.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/K5J6Kaj.jpg)

135 St and all other CPW stations are being worked on, I don't think posting them or perhaps just little details and turnstiles but you already get that I'm improving all the stations by adding stairs, no spitting and exit signs, and of course old exits....

Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on February 12, 2018, 02:42:32 pm
A little update on the 1973 A line. Yes, a little one. I'm currently having a work experience so I don't have much time, and also I started to develop the preGOH R40/M/42.
Anyways, more detailed tower at 207th St (thanks to Ryan J. Terry for textures), stairs with old classic handrails, old DNE signs, new static/animated train textures from in-game screenshots, new tunnels (from 3line objects), exit indications on wall tiles as well as closed exits (open back in the days of course), glowing light bulbs and I think that's it. I'm already at 81 Street but I'll leave it and 72nd St for later and continue to detail from 59 St to Euclid Ave.

(https://i.imgur.com/3EPRi6Z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AbYlsSZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CPVF7oG.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/cR5StIz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XKg5jXg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/a1m15Ta.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/qGIKtpt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eGwLk5x.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/pzdD06v.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jyqg6oP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lZV0ZGl.jpg)
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Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: Wally64 on February 23, 2018, 02:13:16 pm
great route is this still in progress
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on February 23, 2018, 03:56:23 pm
great route is this still in progress
Of course it is, I'm working on it every day.
I expect the 1968-1979 8th Ave lines to be completed within a year though, but it will be worth the wait I promise.
Stay tuned for the scenario list
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: GG_Train on February 23, 2018, 06:05:32 pm
Hi ... are you using PNG files or JPG files for your images.  Also what are the dimesions of your images?  Looks real good ... and yes these things take a lot of time and effort. 

It looks like you do like to pay attention to detail like myself.  Because I am designing an outside line that will eventually go into a subway, I am using the GROUND command for surfaces, buildings, street lights, etc.  Also for fencing not rendered by the DIKE command.  What are your thoughts about this?
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on February 24, 2018, 03:30:54 am
Hi ... are you using PNG files or JPG files for your images.  Also what are the dimesions of your images?  Looks real good ... and yes these things take a lot of time and effort. 

It looks like you do like to pay attention to detail like myself.  Because I am designing an outside line that will eventually go into a subway, I am using the GROUND command for surfaces, buildings, street lights, etc.  Also for fencing not rendered by the DIKE command.  What are your thoughts about this?
I mostly use BMP and PNG. Regarding the signs, most of them are at around 3000x768, but I think lowering them as they take time to load every time I'm approaching a station resulting in annoying 2 seconds freezing
And thanks for the support, I saw the route you are making and I'm quite impressed with the detailing and looks like I will enjoy it. And yes I pay attention to almost every detail as well, especially for a vintage route with old exits and stuff. Unfortunately I rushed so much on the 1970s J/KK/M/MM/QJ
routes that I will rework on it and make the QJ from 168th St and M to Coney Island via Montague tunnel and Brighton. Stay tuned for 59th, 50th and 42nd Streets soon.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: GG_Train on February 24, 2018, 09:00:23 am
Reduce those signs to 256x64 or 256x128. You will not know the difference from far away.  Keep them in PNG format to reduce the size of the file.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on February 24, 2018, 12:30:41 pm
Reduce those signs to 256x64 or 256x128. You will not know the difference from far away.  Keep them in PNG format to reduce the size of the file.
Yeah I'll see
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on February 25, 2018, 02:29:24 am
I'm proud to post the scenario list of all 8th Av lines and other extra lines I'm planning to do. It shows you the hard work I will have for many months. Note that some scenarios are not confirmed, some might get removed, or some more might be added. The tagged scenarios are SECRET and you'll have to discover them by yourself on the final release while operating on them, please do not try to guess or even zoom like a mad man to see what's behind or at least do not say what do you think is behind the graffiti; to avoid any loss of suspense.

(https://i.imgur.com/wgIXidh.jpg)

Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on March 09, 2018, 10:07:06 am
While taking a little break from the 8th Ave line, I'm working on the old Jamaica EL from 168th St to 121st St for the final version of the 1970s Jamaica lines.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: Wally64 on March 11, 2018, 12:56:25 pm
is it doing to be a whole separate route and will it include the coney island M train
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on March 11, 2018, 04:27:34 pm
is it doing to be a whole separate route and will it include the coney island M train
Yes the new version of the Nassau St routes will include updated objects and textures and improved stations. The J,KK,MM and QJ are being extended from 121st Street to 168th Street, the M and QJ routes will also be extended to Coney Island via Brighton and the KK will have a new scenario from Rockaway Parkway to 57 St - 6 Av
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: Wally64 on March 16, 2018, 07:26:10 am
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa thx
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on March 17, 2018, 04:59:08 am
To thank you all for your support on my 1970s route project for OpenBVE, I decided to release a beta/demo of the 1973 A line from 207 St to Euclid Av via 8 Av & Fulton St express.
NOTE: Since it is a BETA, many stations aren't finished (missing stairways, turnstiles and closed exits...) so keep that in mind if you see something completely messed up.

Showcase of the full route authorized on Youtube as long as you put credits.

Modification of the route and objects is prohibited unless it is for your personal preferences and do not REDISTRIBUTE the route,
or unless it is for another project (1930s A line for example), you can of course take this BETA route and objects as a base.

Marker lights: Cab (Yellow) Opposite (Red)
Use 10 Car set consists
You can operate at high speed on CPW and Fulton St!

Object: (Put folder 1972A in Object folder) http://www.mediafire.com/file/z3adm4zcvec9fzj/1972A.rar
Route: (Put folder 1970s 8th Avenue & Rockaway routes in Route folder) http://www.mediafire.com/file/lx74mhd299t9kkd/1970s_8th_Avenue_%26_Rockaway_Routes.rar
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: GG_Train on March 17, 2018, 11:30:52 am
Do you use SketchUp, photoshop, or some other cad application to create your images,csv,b3d files. Also looking at your profile how is it that you have an interest in NYC subways given that time period you are modeling? I thought you were my contemporary (look at my profile).
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on March 17, 2018, 01:41:15 pm
Do you use SketchUp, photoshop, or some other cad application to create your images,csv,b3d files. Also looking at your profile how is it that you have an interest in NYC subways given that time period you are modeling? I thought you were my contemporary (look at my profile).
I am a NYC Subway fan since I was a kid, after I discovered OpenBVE then downloaded old SMEEs trains, and started to learn the 1970s NYC subway system, I decided to develop 1970s routes by myself since I knew nobody will make some even though there is the 1969 Franklin Shuttle. I don't use sketchup at all, I only use Paint.net for textures, I learned modeling fast by fixing objects and understanding B3D and CSV coding. Yes, I learned a lot in less than a year and already know route building basics, some people learn slowly, some learn fast.
If you look at the first screenshots, you notice that I only did retexturing work, but then realized that I need to learn modeling.
And if you are wondering why I am a Conductor and you a New Recruit giving that I registered on BVE Station 2 years after you, is because here the ranking works on the amount of posts you make (from what I see, I'm not sure), but certainly not by time.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: GG_Train on March 17, 2018, 03:32:53 pm
Hi ... what I mean as contemporary is the time we have spent on this earth and where we call home.  I find it very interesting.  Have you ever been to New York?
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on March 18, 2018, 02:58:09 am
Not at all
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on March 30, 2018, 02:23:39 pm
Decided to try the AA, pretty successful on 168th St, no big deal actually, just need to copy all stations from the A and put them on a local C route and change rail indexes and X positioning of some objects.

(https://i.imgur.com/2vfyte1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7b0DWZe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IQJAJZO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/U4zixFn.jpg)

But I first need to finish detailing from 81 St to Canal St on the A, so I can finish the AA right away and do the extension to Hudson Terminal - WTC, and that will be the first scenario to be completed of all other scenarios of the 1970s 8th Avenue routes.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on May 02, 2018, 03:23:50 am
Due to a lot of inactivity on this damn dead website where admins and some developers weren't active since ages, I will probably not post any updates until the full release of the routes, sorry but cannot be asked anymore to make posts if only very few people are often active. I wish it was still like the early 2010s, too bad I didn't join in those times.
Maybe I'll post sometimes but it will be extremely rare, well just like any other forum on this website...
What's the point of keeping this website alive anyways if most of the content are released only on facebook groups or on Youtube, close this website already it's useless, I might sound mad but I don't care because it's the truth.


EDIT: Since people are starting to rate me down, i'll clear this more: for me It's not for the content, because I'm part of a Facebook group as well, it's just sad for others and new members of the bve community to not enjoy most of released stuff on Facebook because they expect BVE Station is where most of content is being released which is wrong, don't get me wrong, some people still release stuff on their forums like me (the beta 1973 A Line, and I really respect them for that (the R68/142/A and the 5 line for example), but to me it's mainly the inactivity of this website that bothers me, looking at some old forums, it's back in 2014-2015 that BVE station seemed to be fun... but anyways, I'll still post some of my updates even if I don't really see the point here... Anyways sorry for that particular post but I had to point this out.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on June 04, 2018, 01:31:49 pm
Some more updates on the 1973 A:

-New vintage benches
-New curve between 175 St and 168 St.
-50th St is done.
-Wider platform and new pillars at W4 St.
Currently working on Canal St, Spring St and 23 St.

Not really much as you would expect from a long silence especially HERE, but I worked a lot on the R42 (I'll post update soon) and other random shit.

New curve between 175 and 168 Sts
(https://i.imgur.com/9PtoIBG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PFsWRGE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9lgDkYv.jpg)

50 St
(https://i.imgur.com/p59IEJD.jpg)

52 St exit on SB platform
(https://i.imgur.com/0g8z9qi.jpg)

52 St exit on NB platform
(https://i.imgur.com/YVSFyrF.jpg)

51 St exit on SB platform
(https://i.imgur.com/OBDwmEz.jpg)

51 St exit on NB platform
(https://i.imgur.com/BFbCjgr.jpg)

50 St and 49 St exit passageway on NB platform (identical configuration on SB platform except without passageway to IRT)
(https://i.imgur.com/fJM4iaM.jpg)

Closer look of IRT passageway
(https://i.imgur.com/daApG2k.jpg)

Closer look of staircases to lower level
(https://i.imgur.com/3kJNanH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BlUeoYb.jpg)

"Do not lean over edge of platform" sign
(https://i.imgur.com/zNuUfgZ.jpg)

W 4 St
(https://i.imgur.com/G1uKVjM.jpg)


ALSO: project list updated, check first page.


Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: Shawn1995 on June 04, 2018, 06:45:11 pm
Yes Yes Yes!
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: NyC646 on June 04, 2018, 07:42:42 pm
Some more updates on the 1973 A:

-New vintage benches
-New curve between 175 St and 168 St.
-50th St is done.
-Wider platform and new pillars at W4 St.
Currently working on Canal St, Spring St and 23 St.

Not really much as you would expect from a long silence especially HERE, but I worked a lot on the R42 (I'll post update soon) and other random shit.

New curve between 175 and 168 Sts
(https://i.imgur.com/9PtoIBG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PFsWRGE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9lgDkYv.jpg)


ALSO: project list updated, check first page.

Nice work, looking forward to the finished project. Any chance you can also implement that updated curve on the current updated A line? Always felt that section leading to the first curve was abit inaccurate.
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on June 05, 2018, 01:22:02 am
Thank you. And yes I will. But I still have to fix and add a lot of curves to the route. Today I'll redo the curve before Canal St and make it sharper
Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on December 25, 2019, 06:46:01 pm
A little Christmas present: 1970s EE to Continental Av BETA. This route version will never be worked on again since I will make a x100 better one in the future as part of the 1970s NYCTA Routes Volume 3 pack (will talk about the different volumes soon).

Dependencies needed: IND 8th Avenue

Object: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MCEZ4kOi4-UX9FJ2Roz-wVndfb80nkiZ

Route: https://drive.google.com/open?id=19N7K-cua_TyX5Rdk1dO9bqs_yUKR2dcE


(https://i.imgur.com/uD4guS2.jpg)

Title: Re: [RELEASED] (WIP) 1970s Routes
Post by: BadriveR142A on January 01, 2020, 01:09:06 pm
Main post of this thread updated with new project sheet.