TL;DR: Read the post(s) fully before posting a reply, otherwise your errors will be pointed out. Also, reading is fundamental.
Not every lead developer here is a MTA worker, but many have their hands on track maps. Don't badger him for his work on the 5 because its his work. Just because he is maybe not a know developer doesnt automatically mean he has to give up his developing rights just because some else who is known has been doing it. OpenBVE is an open-source game remember that he is free to do what he wants. Don't tell him he can't release something if it's his work. With that said this 5 beta looks really good
1. I'm sorry if I wasn't specific enough for you. Most, not all, lead developers have the tracks maps, as most, not all, work for the MTA.
2. Reading is fundamental. I have nothing against @Ztraintobroad's work on the 5. Like you said, it is his work. I am glad there are more developers working to code the NYC Subway system for OpenBVE. However, all I'm saying is that he should have contacted one of the lead developers about developing the route to prevent:
a. Competition to see who codes better, as route developing is not a competition
b. To let other people know a non-fiction project has been started, and so is no need to duplicate it (2 developers coding the same route, but independently of each other). If it was a fictional project, you don't need to tell anybody anything (obviously).
3. Reading is fundamental. What does being a "known" developer have to do with what I said? Also, I said NOTHING about "giving up his developing rights." If he wants to develop, let him. There is not a single person that is going to tell him no. Like I said before, and I will say it again, my only issue is that the lead developers were not contacted before he started his project. Two developers working on the same line and co-developing it is great, but
independently of each other?
That is my issue. 4. Reading is fundamental. Where did I say he can't release it? Please, please, please quote it. I did not say he can not release it. When @ZtraintoBroad finishes the route and he wants to release it for everyone to use, there is nothing and no one saying that he can't. All I am trying to prevent is 2 Developers working on the same route,
independently of each other ESPECIALLY since it is a non-fiction line.
5. I am also trying to prevent this:
this 5 beta looks really good
Now, if it was one developer, we all know who your talking to. If it was 2 developers working to develop the same route, we all know who you are talking to. Did you catch on yet? Now we have a situation where 2 developers, working on the same route, but independently of each other, so who are you talking to? Since no one knows (except yourself), a question like this will be asked by one or both of the developers:
Which 5 are you talking about lol.
And in order to prevent competition, make one developer feel superior than the other, you respond in a manner that gives them both the same gratitude for their work:
All of them they all look nice lol
There is absolutely nothing wrong with showing both of them the same gratitude. We are a community, and should always support each other. When you have to specify who you are showing support to, and have to do so in a manner that doesn't show favoritism, doesn't create a competition in route developing, and doesn't cause any issues to occur between the developers, that is when it becomes a problem.
6. Spell check your post before posting. Your use of grammar and punctuation is horrible.
Thank you very much for your time and have a nice day!!!
