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Community => Transit => Topic started by: Pacific385 on April 18, 2011, 05:05:54 pm
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VIDEOS AREN'T MINE
R160A B train to Brighton Beach (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TwBAApaZeE#ws)
IND Brighton Beach Bound R160A B Train Leaving Chambers St. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ptKNTyU4AA#ws)
R160A B train leaving Chambers Street (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVHv8p5NhD0#ws)
They asked the C/R To change it (at least, that what it says in the description) Remember, the videos aren't mine
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To the MTA, it'd look very "safe", but to me, it'd look very boring , see, they already have 160s on the Q already, so why the B?
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If you ask me they should be on the D instead of the B
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If you ask me they should be on the D instead of the B
To me, i think it would be useless if you put an R160 on the D. See, the D and B is the same thing in the Bronx and Manhattan. So it wouldn't even make a difference. And what Ben said, there's already R160's on the Q via Brighton. In my opinion the R160's should of went to the (F) (L) (R) and the (J/Z)
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If you ask me they should be on the D instead of the B
To me, i think it would be useless if you put an R160 on the D. See, the D and B is the same thing in the Bronx and Manhattan. So it wouldn't even make a difference. And what Ben said, there's already R160's on the Q via Brighton. In my opinion the R160's should of went to the (F) (L) (R) and the (J/Z)
They are there already. Besides why would all the R160's go there? Another thing unless we have another R44 crisis in the R68/A we are just gonna have to except the fact that those trains are PERMANENTLY assigned to the B and D
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If you ask me they should be on the D instead of the B
To me, i think it would be useless if you put an R160 on the D. See, the D and B is the same thing in the Bronx and Manhattan. So it wouldn't even make a difference. And what Ben said, there's already R160's on the Q via Brighton. In my opinion the R160's should of went to the (F) (L) (R) and the (J/Z)
They are there already. Besides why would all the R160's go there? Another thing unless we have another R44 crisis in the R68/A we are just gonna have to except the fact that those trains are PERMANENTLY assigned to the B and D
One day, but remember this wasn't in passenger service.
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they should have a C.I R160A/B run on the (B) on weekdays rush hours
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What other people said they dont need anymore 160's but i think in the future there might be because technology is always moving forward isn't it?
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I hv seen all the vedios you posted
nice indecator on top of windows in such train. appreciate
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it'll end up on the B more likely than the D..concourse is not giving up their 68s anytime soon lol
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it'll end up on the B more likely than the D..concourse is not giving up their 68s anytime soon lol
Thats funny b\c I don't think anyone has yet to catch an R-160 (B) IN SERVICE! But several people including me caught some (D)'s the past few days,weeks,months and years.Most of them re-routed (N) and (F)'s of course but some were put-ins.
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That's still not a definite sign that the (D)'s would get them.
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I think that the R160's kill the route its assigned to doesn't show the true color of the route. But dont get me wrong i like the R160's but i think the should add colors to the route names
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I think that the R160's kill the route its assigned to doesn't show the true color of the route. But dont get me wrong i like the R160's but i think the should add colors to the route names
Yea the 160's are bland they have absolutely no character which is the main reason people don't like them.
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Yea the 160's are bland they have absolutely no character which is the main reason people don't like them.
Speak for yourself, I actually no preference on trains, as long as they take me to point A to point B.
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well there are many perespectives when it comes to this but I think that what they should do is put more "real" trains and forget about the R160 because it looses the meaning of a route I still remember yesterday I was taking the 4 train (R142A) a torist came up to me was like is that the 2 train she thought it because of the red circle in the front they really need to fix that or at least make the circles a bit bigger because when a train enters a train station it can be reletively difficult to read until the side display is facing you
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well there are many perespectives when it comes to this but I think that what they should do is put more "real" trains and forget about the R160 because it looses the meaning of a route I still remember yesterday I was taking the 4 train (R142A) a torist came up to me was like is that the 2 train she thought it because of the red circle in the front they really need to fix that or at least make the circles a bit bigger because when a train enters a train station it can be reletively difficult to read until the side display is facing you
Well, "real" define that. Because theoretically, the R160 is real
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well I am not sure if you were involved with or not with the topic about the R160 where we classified the R160 as a toy train and the R32,42,68 basically the trains before the R160 as real trains which it kind of is true because the R160 it just says everything to you that it does not feel like what tranportation use to be back before the r160's were ever put into play
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People don't give two shats whether the actual route bullet is up on the front of the train or if its a bunch of red LED dots. I think the only thing most people that take the subway care about is whether they get them to their destination on time.
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well I am not sure if you were involved with or not with the topic about the R160 where we classified the R160 as a toy train and the R32,42,68 basically the trains before the R160 as real trains which it kind of is true because the R160 it just says everything to you that it does not feel like what tranportation use to be back before the r160's were ever put into play
Where?I haven't seen one post where it says it's a toy in this topic. Just as long as it takes you from A - B, I don't really care what train it is. I'm the one who posted the topic. But I'm gonna stop with this argument now.
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This is how R160's would look on the (B)
credits to Zach Summer for the photos!
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?89734 (http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?89734)
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?89733 (http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?89733)
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using the C.I R160s
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Back in the 60s and 70s people were saying the same things about the R32s, R38s, etc. What goes around comes around; I'm sure that in 40 years we will all be calling the R160's replacements toy trains too.
Then again it does seem that with each railcar generation the trains get more toy-like.
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well I am not sure if you were involved with or not with the topic about the R160 where we classified the R160 as a toy train and the R32,42,68 basically the trains before the R160 as real trains which it kind of is true because the R160 it just says everything to you that it does not feel like what tranportation use to be back before the r160's were ever put into play
Half the city don't give to fiddler's farts whether the trains are new or not. If you can get to Destination on time and pay for reliable service, that's all they care for.
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Half the city don't give to fiddler's farts whether the trains are new or not. If you can get to Destination on time and pay for reliable service, that's all they care for.
Thats true but you can tell people are tired of some equipment for example the Springfield Garden residents always complaining about something they are the reason why the 32's were gone from the (E).Last year that same community was complaining about the 160's are too cold.
The (C) Riders mainly along Central Pk W are tired of the 32's but damn surely mostly the RF and CPW community was happy as hell when they (C) ran 44's.
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well I heard this motto growin up and matches what you just said people will always complain about something
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well I heard this motto growin up and matches what you just said people will always complain about something
They're a community who thinks they're better than other African-American/Black communities and people say they act white b\c of the way they live(more on the rich side).I guarantee you if it wasn't for them the 160's probably even wouldn't be on the Queens Blvd.They probably got jealous b\c they saw the (A) had 160 Test trains back in '06 and they thought they deserved them instead of the workhorses 32's.
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The R160s went to the (E) because the line has a lot more passengers than the (A) and (C) lines. Get over it. It's not some sort of conspiracy against the (A) and (C) line riders, just a shortage of newer, better cars.
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They're a community who thinks they're better than other African-American/Black communities and people say they act white b\c of the way they live(more on the rich side).I guarantee you if it wasn't for them the 160's probably even wouldn't be on the Queens Blvd.They probably got jealous b\c they saw the (A) had 160 Test trains back in '06 and they thought they deserved them instead of the workhorses 32's.
Source of this please.
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The R160s went to the (E) because the line has a lot more passengers than the (A) and (C) lines. Get over it. It's not some sort of conspiracy against the (A) and (C) line riders, just a shortage of newer, better cars.
The (A) alone has the MOST ridership out of all the lines.So (A)+(C) beats out (E). (A) even beats out (E) alone.
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Source of this please.
Go to that community and take a survey and tell me.Or an easier way go to 71 Av and ask them in the tower there.Cool people there and respectful.
Pretty good income right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Gardens,_Queens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Gardens,_Queens)
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While political pull does have a slight affect on rolling stock placement, it really doesn't have much of an affect on things in the long run when efficiency needs and other factors are added in.
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The R160s went to the (E) because the line has a lot more passengers than the (A) and (C) lines. Get over it. It's not some sort of conspiracy against the (A) and (C) line riders, just a shortage of newer, better cars.
The (A) alone has the MOST ridership out of all the lines.So (A)+(C) beats out (E). (A) even beats out (E) alone.
No it doesn't. The Lexington Avenue Lines alone, are the busiest in the country.
well I heard this motto growin up and matches what you just said people will always complain about something
They're a community who thinks they're better than other African-American/Black communities and people say they act white b\c of the way they live(more on the rich side).I guarantee you if it wasn't for them the 160's probably even wouldn't be on the Queens Blvd.They probably got jealous b\c they saw the (A) had 160 Test trains back in '06 and they thought they deserved them instead of the workhorses 32's.
This was a stupid, ignorant, unbiased opinion that has nothing to do with the topic. If you feel that you're being profiled then you shouldn't be riding the subway in the first place.
MTA put R160's on the E, to fill the gap in the number of trains on the A and C lines, when the R38's were scrapped. That could be true or not, but it sounds more logical than what you said.
While political pull does have a slight affect on rolling stock placement, it really doesn't have much of an affect on things in the long run when efficiency needs and other factors are added in.
Not necessarily. There's a reason why there aren't R160's on the A, B, C, or D, but you can see them on a normal basis, on other lines.
BStyles
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No it doesn't. The Lexington Avenue Lines alone, are the busiest in the country.
BStyles
Excuse me,I meant the (A) train solo line has the MOST ridership out of any other solo line in the system.
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@4 Express ;; I've personally worked along 71st Ave and have relatives and friends that live in that community. Majority of the family, friends and co-workers that I've known give 2 shits on what trains they really get. So in your response, I rather take BStyles' response over yours in terms of it's logic.
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@4 Express ;; I've personally worked along 71st Ave and have relatives and friends that live in that community. Majority of the family, friends and co-workers that I've known give 2 shits on what trains they really get. So in your response, I rather take BStyles' response over yours in terms of it's logic.
I was not talking about the Forrest Hills community I was talking about the T/A workers.But this has nothing to do with the (B) so I'mma get back on topic and not post in this anymore.
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No it doesn't. The Lexington Avenue Lines alone, are the busiest in the country.
BStyles
Excuse me,I meant the (A) train solo line has the MOST ridership out of any other solo line in the system.
That doesn't make a difference. Either the (4), (5), or (6), have higher ridership, which is why I said the Lexington lines. If we were talking about mileage, then yes, the (A) wins hands down. The area in which the 4 serves is more crucial than the west side, and until some part of the Second Avenue Subway is completed then its gonna look like that for the next few years.
Getting back to the B: You're gonna get lucky off of G.O.'s and battery runs, but until Concourse Yard approves the R160's then they're not going to be running anytime soon.
BStyles