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Community => Transit => Topic started by: Haven on March 30, 2011, 06:55:19 pm
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I've noticed some routes have been gone for a while like the 9, W, V and some others i can't think of right now. Could someone get me up to par with whats going on in the MTA like train retirements, route changes/discontinued routes and different route colors please?
Thanks much !
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Next train fleet to be retired should be the 1964 Budd R-32's which run on the (C) and can be spotted on the (A) from time to time.Also the R-42's which run on the (J)(Z).Those car fleets should be FULLY retired in about 4-6yrs roughly.Once the R-179's come in thats when the retiring should start around 2013 or something.Then after that the 46's may go soon also.
As for routes (9) has been gone since 2004 I believe.As for the (W)(V) gone since June due to budget restrictions.
(V) is gone Orange (M) now runs to Forest Hills via Queens Blvd in place of the (V) so it a route merger.(M) no longer serves South Brooklyn to Bay Parkway.
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I've noticed some routes have been gone for a while like the 9, W, V and some others i can't think of right now. Could someone get me up to par with whats going on in the MTA like train retirements, route changes/discontinued routes and different route colors please?
Thanks much !
the (9) has been Discontinued in 2004 along with the <Q>, (W) and (V) was discontinued last June Due to Budget cuts. (M) Now Orange got rerouted between Metro and Forest Hills, (G) now terminates at Court Sq, (Q) has been extended to Astoria, R44 was retired this past summer, Correct for ones i missed ;)
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I've noticed some routes have been gone for a while like the 9, W, V and some others i can't think of right now. Could someone get me up to par with whats going on in the MTA like train retirements, route changes/discontinued routes and different route colors please?
Thanks much !
the (9) has been Discontinued in 2004 along with the <Q>, (W) and (V) was discontinued last June Due to Budget cuts. (M) Now Orange got rerouted between Metro and Forest Hills, (G) now terminates at Court Sq, (Q) has been extended to Astoria, R44 was retired this past summer, Correct for ones i missed ;)
You also forgot that (G) was extended to Church ave. and that the MTA plans to have the Second Avenue Subway completed by 2014 or 2016 IIRC, M8's on the New Haven Line started service earlier this month
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R44 was retired this past summer, Correct for ones i missed ;)
64 cars of 8 sets are chillin in Pitkin eager to enter service ;D the rest are scattered in Coney and 207th being stripped for parts.The rest in Concourse are untouched.
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The R38's are retired and are now gone as of March 2009. The R40 Slants aka R40S are gone as of June 2009. The Modified R40's have also been reefed. R42's out of ENY will begin scrapping aswell as the remaining R32's as the R179 order comes in. The R46 will be scrapped if and when the R211 order comes in so there not going anywhere for now. All R160's have been delivered. The 9 has been long gone since 2005. The V/W have been gone since last year june. G trains have been temporarily extended to Church Ave due to the Culver Rehab. The M has been recolored orange since it is now running to Forest Hills via the Chrystie Street Connection and 6Th Ave. The R44 has been reefed and now retired as of September 2010.
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most of the 44's haven't been reefed yet; idk if they'll "reef" the 44's or not
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most of the 44's haven't been reefed yet; idk if they'll "reef" the 44's or not
No they will not be reefed b\c they're too toxic.They have a lot of lead in them which is why they're being stripped aka scrapped in different yards.They may be delivered on a flatbed car train to Ohio once they're stripped for parts.Also the reefing company been packed up their s**t and left once the last barge went out.
Like I said 64 cars or 8 sets are sitting in Pitkin if in case the 32's have A\C problems again.They're supposed to run at night on (C) service but they don't idk why.
And some of you guys just repeated stuff.
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No, the 9 wasn't discontinued in 2004. It's last day of service was May 27, 2005
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The (9) Train was discontinued on May 27 2005.
The (V)(W) were discontinued on June 25, 2010.
The former Brown (M) via Nassau Street was re-routed to the 6 Av line and changed orange.
The R32 are still in service along the (C) line only.
The R38's have been out of service since March 18, 2009.
The R40 (Slants) have been out of service since June 12, 2009.
The R40M (Modified) have been out of service since August 2009.
The R42 are still in service on the (J) and (Z) lines only.
The R44 have been out of service since October 2010, though the SIR R44's are still in service.
The R46's and be found on the (A)(G)(R)(S)Rockaway Park, and at times on the (F).
The R62's-R160's are still in service.
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I hate those 68's
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I hate those 68's
Ehh..why? I like the ones with the howling motors.
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so know that the R32 is no longer going to be running what is going to be running on the C train the R46?
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I hate those 68's
Ehh..why? I like the ones with the howling motors.
1. They are ugly
2. Hate the propulsion sound
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I hate those 68's
Ehh..why? I like the ones with the howling motors.
1. They are ugly
2. Hate the propulsion sound
3. They are very slow.
4. [On Some] the doors close quickly, like you're in a dungeon or something
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Thank you!
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so know that the R32 is no longer going to be running what is going to be running on the C train the R46?
I think maybe the R32's will be replaced with R160s, since the R160s are "new"
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so know that the R32 is no longer going to be running what is going to be running on the C train the R46?
I think so. Keep in mind this is speculative and by no means indicative of what the (MTA) may or may not do, but I think that when the R179s arrive, they will be placed on the (R) and maybe the (G) lines and their R46s will be displaced to the (C).
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I hate those 68's
Ehh..why? I like the ones with the howling motors.
1. They are ugly
2. Hate the propulsion sound
3. They are very slow.
4. [On Some] the doors close quickly, like you're in a dungeon or something
1.Ok we have our opinions although they're fat.
2.If you hate the 68's propulsion you must dislike the R44,68A & 62A since they're similar minus the howling motors.
3.Yes they're slow but people say "all subway cars are the same speed".They have a lot of weight but once they get going they really haul.
4.I don't see a problem with that I rather have a quick door closing then a slow closing.The R62,62A,68/A have the fastest closings.Slowest are the 46's and 160's.But that's not a major issue.
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so know that the R32 is no longer going to be running what is going to be running on the C train the R46?
I think so. Keep in mind this is speculative and by no means indicative of what the (MTA) may or may not do, but I think that when the R179s arrive, they will be placed on the (R) and maybe the (G) lines and their R46s will be displaced to the (C).
True but I doubt the 179's will go to the (R) and or (G) but it could happen.But for sure the 4 car sets ordered will be for ENY to retire those 42's(the option order)
main order(5 car sets to replace the 32's.But the R-46's may get retrofited for Staten Island b\c the 44's out there have frame issues also but those are in better shape then the ones here but still not much better.
I honestly think the R-179(5 car sets) should go to the (D) so the (A)/(C) can get the 68's.But idk.
And btw the 44's MAY be perm out of service ALL of them b\c the higher priority workers don't want them in service.But anything can change as of now the ones in 207th are being stripped.Concourse remains untouched and Pitkin.The ones in C.I.Y some stripped.
They will not be REEFED! due to toxic it will hurt the environment in the ocean.Once stripped they're supposed to be put on a flatbed truck and be sent to Ohio where idk what the heck is gonna happen 2 them.
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The 68's will not go to the (A) since none of the yards along the (A) maintain 68's. There's a reason they didn't think about that yet.
Apparently the R-32's are being taken off of the (C) and are being placed on the (A), for the summer weather(primarily because you can open a window on the el if the A/C doesn't work, since the C doesn't go outside). It's cheap, but I really don't care.
We're aware that the trains used lead-based paints, which is why a lot of american renovation projects require that we remove said paints from buildings and/or vehicles, such as the Brooklyn Bridge.
You can't doubt where something will go, based on an assumption. If the R179's go to the (R) and (G), then that's where they will go. All I know is that just like the R160's, Concourse Yard will not be using them.
BStyles
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what about the R68's at the concourse yard when are they going to be retired? and what fleet will replace them.
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what about the R68's at the concourse yard when are they going to be retired? and what fleet will replace them.
They'll most likely be retired in the 2020-2035 range depending.In 2016-2018 they'll be 30-32yrs old.
No one exactly knows when they'll start retiring b\c anything can happen with the cars physically which can force them to retire at 30.
But if keep kicking ass everyday and are taken care of then they'll make it till their at least 38 to 40yrs old which will be in 2026-2028.They can stick around long like the 32's depending on their condition and money.
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what about the R68's at the concourse yard when are they going to be retired? and what fleet will replace them.
They'll most likely be retired in the 2020-2035 range depending.In 2016-2018 they'll be 30-32yrs old.
No one exactly knows when they'll start retiring b\c anything can happen with the cars physically which can force them to retire at 30.
But if keep kicking ass everyday and are taken care of then they'll make it till their at least 38 to 40yrs old which will be in 2026-2028.They can stick around long like the 32's depending on their condition and money.
When the R68 start breaking down constantly, then the MTA can decide on whether to retire them or not, for now don't give estimates on years that they may retire, Age sometimes has nothing to do with the cars being retired. the R44 was still young and was taken out of service due to structural issues. If it can still run on rails then it still good, saves the MTA more money and headaches on changing fleet.
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I hate those 68's
Ehh..why? I like the ones with the howling motors.
1. They are ugly
2. Hate the propulsion sound
3. They are very slow.
4. [On Some] the doors close quickly, like you're in a dungeon or something
1.Ok we have our opinions although they're fat.
2.If you hate the 68's propulsion you must dislike the R44,68A & 62A since they're similar minus the howling motors.
3.Yes they're slow but people say "all subway cars are the same speed".They have a lot of weight but once they get going they really haul.
4.I don't see a problem with that I rather have a quick door closing then a slow closing.The R62,62A,68/A have the fastest closings.Slowest are the 46's and 160's.But that's not a major issue.
No I meant I'd have a normal closing, like the R32s
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when will them pieces of trash R62/A's be retired? they have been here long enough its time for them to go. when exactly will they be replaced by New Tech Trains?
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when will them pieces of trash R62/A's be retired? they have been here long enough its time for them to go. when exactly will they be replaced by New Tech Trains?
Those trains are not TRASH! >:( Second they ain't going nowhere anytime soon. They are only 20-25 years old!
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when will them pieces of trash R62/A's be retired? they have been here long enough its time for them to go. when exactly will they be replaced by New Tech Trains?
Unless they develop major issues, then 2020-2025 the earliest.
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when will them pieces of trash R62/A's be retired? they have been here long enough its time for them to go. when exactly will they be replaced by New Tech Trains?
The R62/As are not trash and are only 20-25 years old. They actually are very reliable and have served the MTA well, a quick look at the MDBF numbers shows that the R62/As are in the middle of the pack in terms of reliability.
Read The Graph Carefully, It is Easy To Misinterpret.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/rjr6nt.jpg)
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I respect your opinion b\c we all have likes/dislikes b\c we are all unique and different in many ways.If you want to call 62/A's trash then let if be.To me personally every train is reliable whether they're 40 or under a year old b\c its getting people to places non-the less.Its better than nothing.I personally hate the 42's b\c they look terrible and need to go but they're reliable since their kicking their ass nearly everyday getting thousands of riders from there to there.
To me all the cars are in good shape except the 42's b\c of the carbon steel but while any and every train remains in service they're reliable or useful.
The 62A's are boring to me b\c they have nothing special about them to me they're loosing it b\c they're getting older but they still do their job on the (1) and (7).I recommend you to ride the (3) more often if you don't b\c for their age they are still damn fast maybe that'll change your mind.
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when will them pieces of trash R62/A's be retired? they have been here long enough its time for them to go. when exactly will they be replaced by New Tech Trains?
That was a very ignorant response. Trains are obviously not retired due to customer dissatisfaction, and it would be wiser to ask the MTA, and not us. And no, they have NOT been around for too long(maybe too long in your lifetime) But the trains do not plan to get retired for another decade or so, now that MTA plans to retire older fleets as they turn 40, or so I hear.
Trains get old. That's what happens when time passes. The R142 cars turn 13 this year, could you believe?
BStyles
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I honestly think the R-179(5 car sets) should go to the (D) so the (A)/(C) can get the 68's.But idk.
:o 8) :-X :-*
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Screw the 68's. They look really good on the G so i think they should stay there. But thats my opinion.
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1. The G's R68's are in Coney Island an they are there PERMANENTLY
I honestly think the R-179(5 car sets) should go to the (D) so the (A)/(C) can get the 68's.But idk.
:o 8) :-X :-*
2. Unless Concourse gives up their hippos don't expect any NTT on there
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What Ever Happened To The 44's That Ran The JFK Express (Train To The Plane) Are Those Cars Still Around? Or Where They Retired In The GOH Removal Of The Blue Stripe?
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What Ever Happened To The 44's That Ran The JFK Express (Train To The Plane) Are Those Cars Still Around? Or Where They Retired In The GOH Removal Of The Blue Stripe?
Many are stripped in 207th and Coney Island for scrap.The SIR is 100% R-44's they got SMS'ed.Blue stripe(pre-goh) has been painted over in the 90's as part of the subway overhaul.
64 R-44's for the Subway are in Pitkin if in case the 32's have A/C problems.Some are in Concourse for storage(scrap pending).
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Why dont they just destroy them?
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Why dont they just destroy them?
Examples?
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Reef em, *COUGH* send em to Philly *COUGH*, blow em up
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Yeah, unlike some transit systems I know, we do not blow up our trains. That makes no sense and is redundant to scrapping. And by the way, last time I checked, this was a route discussion, not a train discussion.
BStyles
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Yeah, unlike some transit systems I know, we do not blow up our trains. That makes no sense and is redundant to scrapping. And by the way, last time I checked, this was a route discussion, not a train discussion.
BStyles
LOL LOL styles.