ah okay but, in 1.4.2 i did what i was supposed to for installing both the train and program, but all i get is a black void and signals and the train ahead of me. Would this have anything to do with having 1.2 installed, and also i have a six or seven year old Dell P4, don't know the specs. but i have i believe i have it running off a 256 Grp. Card. Thnx and sry for all the both long and repeatitve questions.