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Community => Transit => Topic started by: ipac on July 21, 2011, 06:57:04 pm

Title: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: ipac on July 21, 2011, 06:57:04 pm
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/07/21/mta-chief-jay-walder-resigning/ (http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/07/21/mta-chief-jay-walder-resigning/)

Looks like the head of the MTA will be resigning and going over to work for the Hong Kong MTR.  Admist the MTA's budget crisis and service cuts, he still managed to bring some innovation to the MTA, things like countdown clocks, revamped website, improved access to information, and other little projects.  I personally think its a bad time to leave, especially after starting these new things then leaving them unfinished as he hands it off to somebody else to run.  What do you guys think about this?
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Slants4Lyfe on July 21, 2011, 07:44:04 pm
although he did some good little things in the MTA...i got two words...Good Riddance
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: bve on July 21, 2011, 09:34:58 pm
A Good and Bad idea. Good because he won't **ck the system up anymore. Bad because the MTA is in hole.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Lexington456 on July 21, 2011, 09:43:59 pm
To me, all he did was make the system more convenient for information. Other than that, he didn't really do anything
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: R40R32 on July 21, 2011, 10:40:45 pm
He helped the tourist as far as Information and certain things but to me he ran the M.T.A.
into the ground and put it through hell ruining the transit system and to not have any further complaint of it all he is ditching this transit system
That's my thought and my opinion
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Dj Hammers on July 22, 2011, 07:25:59 am
While I disagreed with some of his policies, he did inherit quite a mess. He managed to do a lot in a very short time to a system reluctant to accept reforms.
For that, I respect him.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: coneyislandDFNQ on July 24, 2011, 02:24:42 am
Didnt hear much about him until he implemented the solar heated water at nearby Transit Yards (including Coney Island). Other than that I hope the new guy brings back the 7 Day Fun Pass (as quoted from 4 Express), which I totally agree with.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Simon on July 24, 2011, 10:02:11 am
A Good and Bad idea. Good because he won't **ck the system up anymore. Bad because the MTA is in hole.

Albany messed the system up, Walder was the scapegoat. He managed to make some reforms which were good, but you can't really expect him to do tons with that budget.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Lance on July 24, 2011, 01:37:29 pm
Didnt hear much about him until he implemented the solar heated water at nearby Transit Yards (including Coney Island). Other than that I hope the new guy brings back the 7 Day Fun Pass (as quoted from 4 Express), which I totally agree with.

Don't bank on it. Until the budget improves for the MTA, don't expect any improvements to service or the return of the fun-pass.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Haven on July 24, 2011, 03:04:22 pm
Lets just hope Walder dont mess up MTR
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: dman1455 on July 24, 2011, 08:03:22 pm
Walder did so much... More LFSA's,LFS, New C40LF's... Are you guys BLIND!?
Countdown Clocks, Ads on the trains, and much more..
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: bve on July 24, 2011, 08:31:20 pm
None of that really means anything if there is still needs for service improvements.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Bombardier01800 on July 24, 2011, 09:12:01 pm
Walder did so much... More LFSA's,LFS, New C40LF's... Are you guys BLIND!?
Countdown Clocks, Ads on the trains, and much more..
Yea, where's the money? I know being a transit fan and all, but all people really care about are trains and buses to get them from point A to B. Walder did do a lot, including
unnecessary expenses.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: ipac on July 24, 2011, 09:20:57 pm
He did his best with what he had.  Albany screwed the MTA over, the Union and its members get pay raises screwing the MTA again.  You have 2 groups pulling the legs of the MTA, I think Walder did an exceptional job trying to balance them.  There is no way you can satisfy everybody in that sort of situation.  The service cuts were inevitable really.  Perhaps the money used to innovate the technology in the system could've been used to hold back the cuts or a fare hike, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't enough being that the countdown clocks were relatively inexpensive, and the new website job and advertising campaigns are merely specks of dust admist the whole financial crisis.

If you were Walder, you would probably take the offer for the MTR, run by a joint public/private corporation with government support, and a shitload of expansion projects. Sounds fun, being a visionary there without the fear of getting a bad image by politics and bureaucracy.  I still think Walder should ride out this whole mess in the MTA, he started these projects, he should finish them.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: dman1455 on July 24, 2011, 10:50:52 pm
Walder did so much... More LFSA's,LFS, New C40LF's... Are you guys BLIND!?
Countdown Clocks, Ads on the trains, and much more..
Yea, where's the money? I know being a transit fan and all, but all people really care about are trains and buses to get them from point A to B. Walder did do a lot, including
unnecessary expenses.

They care so much that the first LFS has the seats changed already... so they care
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Bombardier01800 on July 24, 2011, 11:31:50 pm
What? care about what? They care about a good transit system that meets their expectations and paying the expensive fares
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Dj Hammers on July 24, 2011, 11:58:04 pm
I have been commuting in to the city for summer classes for 2 weeks now, and I can personally attest that the
new things that Walder implemented in his short 2 years are really great.

From the firsthand view of a rider, Walder was pretty good.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Lance on July 25, 2011, 08:14:47 am
He did his best with what he had.  Albany screwed the MTA over, the Union and its members get pay raises screwing the MTA again.  You have 2 groups pulling the legs of the MTA, I think Walder did an exceptional job trying to balance them.  There is no way you can satisfy everybody in that sort of situation.  The service cuts were inevitable really.  Perhaps the money used to innovate the technology in the system could've been used to hold back the cuts or a fare hike, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't enough being that the countdown clocks were relatively inexpensive, and the new website job and advertising campaigns are merely specks of dust admist the whole financial crisis.

RE: Countdown clocks:
The clocks were paid for in the 2005-09 capital budget and a good chunk of the boards were installed in 2008, so that wouldn't have saved much money. All the MTA did starting last year was turn them on. Plus, the clocks are just a minor (and less expensive) part of the ATS system that was installed a few years ago.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: coneyislandDFNQ on July 25, 2011, 11:11:30 am
To add to what Lance said if you take a nice gander down at Stillwell Avenue they finally put up the actual LCD screen that was proposed about the same time those countdown clocks were ordered.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Rayvon on July 25, 2011, 02:58:46 pm
walder didn't really do anything, I think he wasted more money than he should have and the stuff I've seen in the works is not promising.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Lance on July 25, 2011, 05:33:36 pm
What could he do? He was brought on board in 2009.  At that point, the budget was already in the toilets and as you may remember, we were facing the '09 service cuts ((W), (Z) eliminated; (M) cut to Chambers St, rush hrs). You can't really do much when you don't have any money and the stuff he did do, like the station rehab projects on the Pelham and Brighton lines or the implementation of the ATS system on the IRT lines, was already paid for in the previous capital budget program.
Title: Re: Jay Walder resigns, heads to Hong Kong MTR
Post by: Rayvon on July 25, 2011, 05:53:23 pm
What could he do? He was brought on board in 2009.  At that point, the budget was already in the toilets and as you may remember, we were facing the '09 service cuts ((W), (Z) eliminated; (M) cut to Chambers St, rush hrs). You can't really do much when you don't have any money and the stuff he did do, like the station rehab projects on the Pelham and Brighton lines or the implementation of the ATS system on the IRT lines, was already paid for in the previous capital budget program.
Which is why he didn't really do anything up until now, Retrofitting Old cars with FIND is a stupid idea though that he signed off on and is already in the works.