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Title: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 18, 2013, 07:18:33 pm: Hey guys.

I am relatively new to the BVEStation community. In my spare time, I have taught myself the basics of CSV
coding and I am working on making the existing old 1st generation (L) line more accurate.

What I plan to do:
photorealistic station walls
railgaps
accurate walls in the 14th ST tube
and maybe ATC or the Seltrac ATO ;)

I know that there are other new L routes in development, but I thought I'd
give this a try.

I have PM'd Phantom909 and asked his permission. If he says yes, my project will commence.
Screenshots maybe coming later...
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: IIRules2 on March 18, 2013, 08:17:08 pm: Have at it bro :') You'll do fine~
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Mr Railfan on March 18, 2013, 08:17:52 pm: Good luck! If you need help feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 18, 2013, 08:21:19 pm: thanks for the support! ;D

here goes nothin'....
lol ;)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 18, 2013, 08:26:27 pm: FIRST EYE CANDY!!

here you can see i have added the OPTO signs which are now on the (L) line.

(http://postimage.org/image/l29mpbj8t/)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Dj Hammers on March 18, 2013, 10:02:47 pm: Good start.

BTW, For future purposes, I would suggest using imgur.com instead of postimage to put images up on here.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: YankeesPwnMets on March 18, 2013, 10:17:28 pm: Just in case anyone has trouble seeing that image..
(http://s22.postimage.org/olvkf4lyp/optos_signs.png)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 19, 2013, 03:27:53 pm: here is some more screenshots for u....

THE ENTRANCE TO THE 14TH STREET TUBE
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1740/eastrivertube.png)

HI-RES PLATFORMScourtesy of TJay's objects :)
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4082/platdemo2.png) @Myrtle-Wyckoff Avs
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/3332/platformdemo.png) @Bedford Avenue

trainbrain
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 19, 2013, 04:49:46 pm: MORE PHOTOS

(http://oi47.tinypic.com/tahvn5.jpg)

(http://oi46.tinypic.com/20sg0vt.jpg)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 19, 2013, 06:54:02 pm: You can see the updated tunnel walls all around:

(http://oi46.tinypic.com/ydy4k.jpg)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 19, 2013, 08:03:36 pm: And here are yet more screenshots.

Important development note: With the tunnels done, I now move on to the photoreal station walls. :)

(http://oi48.tinypic.com/33azdoi.jpg)

(http://oi47.tinypic.com/166ks2e.jpg)

(http://oi47.tinypic.com/30ichvo.jpg)

WHAT ELSE WILL HAPPEN?
Possibly ATC or ATO.
The aforementioned photoreal station walls.
Possibly updating the track to the latest (the track on the DRTA fulton shuttle and BStyles' (4))

ill keep u guys posted.. :).
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: (J)-Broad St,Manhattan to Jamaica Center Parsons/Archer,Qnz. on March 19, 2013, 09:02:13 pm: :o, I can't believe what I'm seeing ! Keep up the good work ! ;D
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 20, 2013, 02:55:46 pm: THE SCREENSHOTS KEEP COMING....

(http://oi50.tinypic.com/a5gsg3.jpg)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: (J)-Broad St,Manhattan to Jamaica Center Parsons/Archer,Qnz. on March 20, 2013, 03:25:21 pm: What would really go good with this update is new signals & timers :D
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 20, 2013, 06:28:58 pm: Well you're in luck (J)...in fact i'm working on those now.

Timers-they're cool-especially the ones in TJay's signal pack-but now there are no more timers on the (L) cause of CBTC.
In fact, there are barely any signals at all, just around crossover switch junctions.

Currently I am adding TJay's signals in to the route.

More pics are on the way, stay tuned
;)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 21, 2013, 03:23:34 pm: an R179 through the newly updated east river tube

(http://oi46.tinypic.com/117slm0.jpg)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 21, 2013, 05:19:25 pm: new track

(http://oi50.tinypic.com/2eq3vd4.jpg)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: r160bve on March 21, 2013, 05:27:23 pm: Amazing progress, dont quit....keep it going, im sure everyone here appericates your contribution ;D
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 21, 2013, 06:15:20 pm: thanks

I sure hope people do....lol ;)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: bigbellymon4 on March 21, 2013, 06:48:44 pm: great progress on the route!!! with the installment of tjays signals, you can hide them behind the walls so you can get the CBTC feel. just make the .runinterval line is not 120 or lower.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Pegasusleos4 on March 21, 2013, 07:09:16 pm: Keep up the amazing work trainbrain. Can't wait to see the finish route :) :D ;D
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 21, 2013, 08:26:44 pm: UPDATE TRACKS IN THE TUNNELS

(http://oi49.tinypic.com/ilc1w7.jpg)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: ErrorMacro11 on March 21, 2013, 08:55:39 pm: the tunnels are you going to make em real with those iron rods
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Haven on March 22, 2013, 04:51:55 pm: Nice. Did you fix the elevated level? Especially around Sutter to Atlantic Ave?
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 23, 2013, 09:18:15 am: nah I didn't because of my lack of knowledge/info about that section of the L
right now im just focusing on the underground section.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 23, 2013, 02:54:22 pm: THE FIRST PHOTOREALISTIC WALLS (not done yet) :)

At Union Square-14 St
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/wres10.jpg)

At Dekalb Avenue
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/2myut0w.jpg)

(as you can see stuff is too close together...this WILL be fixed, dont worry.. ;))
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on March 28, 2013, 09:01:14 pm: I'm back...and here I have added brightness commands.

(http://oi46.tinypic.com/25iq1.jpg)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Threxx1 on March 28, 2013, 09:32:29 pm: Wow... this is excellent. It's time for the (L) to move into 4th/5th Generation route territory.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: F train fan on March 28, 2013, 11:11:41 pm: just wondering will there be a cbtc and a manual announcement version
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: R42Awesome44 on March 28, 2013, 11:29:23 pm: Quote from: trainbrain on March 21, 2013, 08:26:44 pm
UPDATE TRACKS IN THE TUNNELS

(http://oi49.tinypic.com/ilc1w7.jpg)

btw make it say Avenue not Avenune.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Nicholas Blonski on March 29, 2013, 01:56:30 am: Looking good! You should use the latest object pack from Tjay though, since those objects you used are a bit outdated now.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: r160bve on March 29, 2013, 06:30:28 pm: I believe mr railfan can take care of the annoucements so don't worry about that.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Fox-179 on March 30, 2013, 03:22:02 pm: Looks very good! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on April 02, 2013, 12:50:53 pm: new track on the elevated portion of the line.

(http://oi50.tinypic.com/v8q2ck.jpg)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on April 02, 2013, 01:12:23 pm: more new tracks 8)

(http://oi45.tinypic.com/244zgh1.jpg)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Haven on April 02, 2013, 09:33:10 pm: NICE!!
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: ARome on April 03, 2013, 12:21:22 pm: Looks good, keep up the great work!
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on April 03, 2013, 12:23:34 pm: thanks guys
I try ;)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on April 03, 2013, 03:29:28 pm: Quote from: F train fan on March 28, 2013, 11:11:41 pm
just wondering will there be a cbtc and a manual announcement version

F train fan

I am planning on having one version that uses the R42 (manual anncs, recorded by me) and one version that uses the R143/160 with automated anncs. The R143 route I hope to include ATC/ATO
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on April 04, 2013, 12:31:11 pm: (SIR NORTH SHORE LINE, IF YOU SEE THIS PLEASE PM ME.)

I plan to update the car objects for the r143 that are in the route now (since they are not very accurate). i hope to use SIR's R143 objs if he gives permission
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Threxx1 on April 04, 2013, 01:55:02 pm: Quote from: trainbrain on April 04, 2013, 12:31:11 pm
(SIR NORTH SHORE LINE, IF YOU SEE THIS PLEASE PM ME.)

I plan to update the car objects for the r143 that are in the route now (since they are not very accurate). i hope to use SIR's R143 objs if he gives permission

You can find even higher quality R143's here:
http://www.openbveconnect.com/page.php?6 (http://www.openbveconnect.com/page.php?6)

Those would go better with the route.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: R42Awesome44 on April 04, 2013, 02:45:07 pm: I'm so eager to play this route!! ;D I wish there was a face for eagerness.

Keep up the good work trainbrain.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on April 04, 2013, 03:30:50 pm: Quote from: Threxx1 on April 04, 2013, 01:55:02 pm
You can find even higher quality R143's here:
http://www.openbveconnect.com/page.php?6 (http://www.openbveconnect.com/page.php?6)

Those would go better with the route.

I'll have to ask PuertoRican88's permission for those...

but I'll try-those are very nice car objects and would look great as static trains.
(I MIGHT EVEN ADD ANIMATED TRAINS, LIKE IN THE (A) AND THE (F) :)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Haven on April 04, 2013, 03:59:14 pm: Are you goin to add proper timers and speed limits?
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on April 04, 2013, 04:02:11 pm: Quote from: Haven on April 04, 2013, 03:59:14 pm
Are you goin to add proper timers and speed limits?

The L hasn't had timers since CBTC and speed limits are displayed in the cab (I WILL USE A PLUGIN FOR THIS)

If I do an R42 pre-CBTC version, I will have timers and speed limits.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Threxx1 on April 05, 2013, 08:09:11 pm: Even though these are unofficial, these track maps may help you fix the area around Broadway Junction:

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/trackmap/pm_southeast_2.png (http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/trackmap/pm_southeast_2.png)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: bbsd2 on April 05, 2013, 09:40:24 pm: will this be the full route?
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: R42Awesome44 on April 05, 2013, 09:48:11 pm: Quote from: bbsd2 on April 05, 2013, 09:40:24 pm
will this be the full route?
Yes it will be the Full L from:
Rockaway Parkway,Brooklyn to 8th Av,Manhattan. :P :o 8)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Brighton Express on April 06, 2013, 04:01:46 pm: I am not sure how easy this is, but one idea is that you should update the grass. I haven't been out there for a LONG LONG time, since they had that one R42 running on the (L), but I believe the texture for that is some kind of gravel. Just adding my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on April 06, 2013, 06:38:14 pm: Quote from: Threxx1 on April 05, 2013, 08:09:11 pm
Even though these are unofficial, these track maps may help you fix the area around Broadway Junction:

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/trackmap/pm_southeast_2.png (http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/trackmap/pm_southeast_2.png)

thanks threxx :)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Ben on April 06, 2013, 08:15:45 pm: I'm sorry haven't been here for a long time...

That's great to hear another (L) train route being developed! The version I have is the original route by Edward Yee, and it's a really good thing to hear about a new, more realistic (L) route being developed!
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on April 09, 2013, 12:32:21 pm: NOTICE PLEASE READ

I have emails and PMs about BETA testing: as of now I do not need any BETA testers.

Also, I will need CONTRIBUTIONS of info about the line between Canarsie and Myrtle. If anyone could maybe get video/pix of the route and stations that would be MUCH appreciated. (signal placement, track types, surrounding details.)

AND NOW, AN UPDATE ON THE UPDATING THAT I AM SURE U WANT:

I am working to bring details into the underground section (Do Not Enter signs, exits {photoreal}, photoreal walls and other signs in the tunnels {i.e. WARNING AUTOMATIC OPERATION IN EFFECT and EXIT>100 M.

MORE SCREENSHOTS AND INFO ON THE WAY SOON, STAY TUNED!!!
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Nicholas Blonski on April 09, 2013, 06:13:32 pm: Sounds nice. Damn, I wish I could contribute, but I don't live in NYC :-\
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on April 09, 2013, 07:24:01 pm: Quote from: Brighton Express on April 06, 2013, 04:01:46 pm
I am not sure how easy this is, but one idea is that you should update the grass. I haven't been out there for a LONG LONG time, since they had that one R42 running on the (L), but I believe the texture for that is some kind of gravel. Just adding my 2 cents.

yep i was gonna do that I don't like that grass anyway
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: Green Eggs n Pelham on April 10, 2013, 10:46:09 pm: @Train: Contact me via PM on the BDC website and I'll supply you the information you need.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on April 13, 2013, 06:05:00 pm: CONTRIBUTIONS ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED!!

At this point, the (L) updating project is entirely reliant on contributions from the BVEStation community. I need pictures & videos of the line between Canarsie and Myrtle Avenue.
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: WestEndMan on April 13, 2013, 09:30:29 pm: I dont know if this helps but it has info and loads of pics of every station.

http://nycsubway.org/wiki/BMT_Canarsie_Line (http://nycsubway.org/wiki/BMT_Canarsie_Line)
Title: Re: Updating the old (L) for BVE
Post by: trainbrain on June 02, 2013, 03:13:34 pm: I am restarting work. Expect a fully detailed Myrtle Ave coming soon.

I am obtaining shots for 8th Ave.
Like it?
(http://oi43.tinypic.com/pm736.jpg)