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Community => Transit => Topic started by: Andres on May 14, 2011, 08:57:08 pm

Title: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: Andres on May 14, 2011, 08:57:08 pm
well i just heard from a t/o friend of mine that theres going to be a major fleet change for the IRT.

Half of the R142A fleet on the (6) based out of Westchester yard are going to the Kawasaki plant in Yonkers to be converted into R188's for the (7) based out of Corona Yard.

The Sets Of New Tech that is going to the (7) line will be replaced with R62's that will go to the (6). looks like 62's is coming back to the bronx.

rumor is also spreading of various 62 sets heading back to the (4)

finally the surplus of R142A's from the (6) will head to the (2) line. being based from 239th st yard A.K.A wakefield yard. making the (2) and (5) lines fully new tech train lines even though they are already full of new tech.

also the (7) line is rumored to get CBTC control signals when the final 142A's are converted.

CBTC is also rumored to be placed on the (2) and (5) lines when the surplus arrives.

sources are: 180th st, unionport yard masters, Tamara from teamspeak and bebo.  looks like this is going to be the first overhaul of the 142A fleet.
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: kawasakir160 on May 14, 2011, 08:59:00 pm
they should have just left the lexington line with R62s, if they were gonna bring them back in the future...
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: Pacific385 on May 14, 2011, 09:08:14 pm
finally the surplus of R142A's from the (6) will head to the (2) line. being based from 239th st yard A.K.A wakefield yard. making the (2) and (5) lines fully new tech train lines even though they are already full of new tech.

I could've sworn that the (2) and (5) Trains are all NTT already. But anyway, I have a feeling that you're correct since that's what's been going on (rumor) for the past few months.
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: Fox-179 on May 14, 2011, 09:08:38 pm
The (7) Flushing Line CBTC is not a rumor its a few years old news.
7731-7810 from the (4) will be leaving since they have the CBTC kits already installed unlike the rest of the fleet.
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: 21372074 on May 14, 2011, 09:24:27 pm
Noooooooo. why take away the r142a from the 6 if they allready did the station updates for them. taking them away will be causing major problems. that is just my opinion
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: Fox-179 on May 14, 2011, 09:28:00 pm
Noooooooo. why take away the r142a from the 6 if they allready did the station updates for them. taking them away will be causing major problems. that is just my opinion
Because all the (4)'s R-142A's can't cover the 7.Thats why.
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: 21372074 on May 14, 2011, 09:30:38 pm
Noooooooo. why take away the r142a from the 6 if they allready did the station updates for them. taking them away will be causing major problems. that is just my opinion
Because all the (4)'s R-142A's can't cover the 7.Thats why.
but the 6 train is the busiest line on the east side in the bronx during the morning and the afternoon. i take both the 6 and the 5 to get to school. and the 6 train needs the extra trains. the trains are all ready crowded
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: BStyles on May 14, 2011, 10:40:02 pm
Adding more trains to a line with a three minute headways in Lower Manhattan isn't smart.

CBTC has nothing to do with NTT(new technology train). The R143 had new trains for some years before they upgraded the systems to CBTC(communication-based train control)

BStyles
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: bve on May 14, 2011, 11:08:45 pm
Great they taking away R142A's from the 4. Looks like my days on a R142A 4 Train are numbered >:(
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: error46146 on May 14, 2011, 11:17:18 pm
the 2/5 were always completely NTT..there hasn't been an R62 on the 2 in a LONG time

the R142A's will be sent to Yonkers to be convered to R188's for use on the 7, that is correct.

the R62A's that have been displaced by the R188's will most likely end up on the 4/6.
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: Fox-179 on May 15, 2011, 03:48:37 am
Great they taking away R142A's from the 4. Looks like my days on a R142A 4 Train are numbered >:(
I don't know if ALL of them will leave.But most certainly the CBTC ones installed already will go to the (7) which are cars 7731-7810.The lowest number R-142A supposedly on the (4) is 7661 which I have yet seen on the 4 but w\e.
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: Pacific385 on May 15, 2011, 06:48:00 am
So we might be seeing this again: NY City Hall Station Apr 1993 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF1rfMW4QXk#)  (W/O The redbirds) Seems Cool
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: Fox-179 on May 15, 2011, 10:09:10 am
Mhmm..interesting video I remember riding/seeing R62/A's on the (6) back in 2000 or and 2001.
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: Pacific385 on May 15, 2011, 11:36:44 am
Mhmm..interesting video I remember riding/seeing R62/A's on the (6) back in 2000 or and 2001.

There was also R142 (not A) 6 Trains that time also
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: peacemak3r on May 15, 2011, 02:36:50 pm
I feel that the 62's back on the Lexington would do no justice anymore for the tourists at least.  I'm sure the daily commuters like myself won't mind or just don't care (they just bring us to point A to B.)  All I know is whenever I get to 42nd Grand Central, tourists and R142/A's mix VERY well and it helps them out more then usual.  I've never rode the Lexington when they were all 62's and can't say the same effect with the tourists, but that's just me now.
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: ProjectAce on May 26, 2011, 03:13:41 am
WOW interesting! Would be hella of a nostalgic moment to see this be implemented (R62 on 6). Another thing, sorry for the noob question but what *exactly* is CBTC? What exactly does it do? Hope it's not some type of AirTrain insanity. *Cry* 
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: Fox-179 on May 26, 2011, 06:47:59 am
WOW interesting! Would be hella of a nostalgic moment to see this be implemented (R62 on 6). Another thing, sorry for the noob question but what *exactly* is CBTC? What exactly does it do? Hope it's not some type of AirTrain insanity. *Cry*
CBTC stands for=Communication-based train control some people say Computer.
From wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication-based_train_control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication-based_train_control)
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: (SIR) North Shore Line on May 26, 2011, 10:33:03 am
I feel that the 62's back on the Lexington would do no justice anymore for the tourists at least.  I'm sure the daily commuters like myself won't mind or just don't care (they just bring us to point A to B.)  All I know is whenever I get to 42nd Grand Central, tourists and R142/A's mix VERY well and it helps them out more then usual.  I've never rode the Lexington when they were all 62's and can't say the same effect with the tourists, but that's just me now.

The 1 train is used by many tourists and there's no problem over there.
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: BStyles on May 26, 2011, 03:26:59 pm
You're confusing tourists with New Yorkers. If a tourist has never seen this city before, then what do they care? It's all about experience.

BStyles
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: error46146 on May 26, 2011, 03:57:16 pm
The subway is here to make us the residents of NYC happy, not the tourists.

As for 62A's on the 6...imagine standing at the RFW of this:
R142A 6 Express train going past Morrison-Sound View (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=772UG-KPBqM#)
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: Fox-179 on May 26, 2011, 05:15:29 pm
Yea lets say 5mph+ slower than that b\c the 62A's are :P iffy.It it was 62's then it would had been over! :)
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: Queens Blvd Express on May 26, 2011, 06:19:47 pm
Yeah playa u a little late this plan been here since 4 years ago
Title: Re: Major Fleet Changes For The IRT
Post by: ProjectAce on May 26, 2011, 09:44:37 pm
WOW interesting! Would be hella of a nostalgic moment to see this be implemented (R62 on 6). Another thing, sorry for the noob question but what *exactly* is CBTC? What exactly does it do? Hope it's not some type of AirTrain insanity. *Cry*
CBTC stands for=Communication-based train control some people say Computer.
From wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication-based_train_control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication-based_train_control)

Ahh I see. Yea I have seen that. Tried Googling around. That Wiki article is a bit unclear or I
 Am probably a big noob lol. I wanted to see if someone can dumb it down and explain how it actually works. I Just want to be sure I got it right actually.  Sorry lol. Very slow I know.