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BVE => Other Projects => Topic started by: coneyislandDFNQ on March 24, 2011, 03:09:03 pm
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A little project I worked on before opening up some other routes.
This special (2) route runs via the (1) from 14th Street to 34th Street. An idea cam to my head is to actually try it on Newtown servers before actually contacing Kevin and the original author of the (2) route. So I am asking for some help in testing this project out. If this is illegal please let me know ahead of time please. But also this can be a break through in simulation experience.
Thanks for reading!
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The Original creator is Joe so you'd have to PM him about switching around the codes and you'll have to add in some codes.Many members want more out of routes such as local and express versions.Its not hard b\c its not re-writing the whole file its just changing a few commands.I'm sure a lot of us would like a (D) via Concourse Express and its not hard the code after Bedford Park would have to be changed and possibly a few codes need to be added.It would be easier if the the (D) went local as it is from Fordham to Tremont then a switch command to diverge left on to the express and commands would have to be taken out such as the stopping and a few things to add.But I wish you the best and it won't take 2 long.
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The Original creator is Joe so you'd have to PM him about switching around the codes and you'll have to add in some codes.Many members want more out of routes such as local and express versions.Its not hard b\c its not re-writing the whole file its just changing a few commands.I'm sure a lot of us would like a (D) via Concourse Express and its not hard the code after Bedford Park would have to be changed and possibly a few codes need to be added.It would be easier if the the (D) went local as it is from Fordham to Tremont then a switch command to diverge left on to the express and commands would have to be taken out such as the stopping and a few things to add.But I wish you the best and it won't take 2 long.
It is a pain... After you modify the switch (.turn) command, you have to reconfigure the rest of the route after it. Believe me, I've tried.
Manny, the only issue I can see with this and Newtown, is it doesn't know the difference(in tracks). By this I mean, let's say you have a local at 18th St, and an express bypassing. The express train will trip, or see a train in front. The only way to work around this would be to sign Locals as one route, and expresses as another.
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The Original creator is Joe so you'd have to PM him about switching around the codes and you'll have to add in some codes.Many members want more out of routes such as local and express versions.Its not hard b\c its not re-writing the whole file its just changing a few commands.I'm sure a lot of us would like a (D) via Concourse Express and its not hard the code after Bedford Park would have to be changed and possibly a few codes need to be added.It would be easier if the the (D) went local as it is from Fordham to Tremont then a switch command to diverge left on to the express and commands would have to be taken out such as the stopping and a few things to add.But I wish you the best and it won't take 2 long.
It is a pain... After you modify the switch (.turn) command, you have to reconfigure the rest of the route after it. Believe me, I've tried.
Manny, the only issue I can see with this and Newtown, is it doesn't know the difference(in tracks). By this I mean, let's say you have a local at 18th St, and an express bypassing. The express train will trip, or see a train in front. The only way to work around this would be to sign Locals as one route, and expresses as another.
Yea b\c of the stopping at stations but it can be copied from the (B).Lets say the (D) make it run local in the Bronx as it is all the way to 145th and the (B) from 145th can be copied and pasted so it'll make the (D) a fully local route but the distances would have to be changed which isn't bad so it isn't changing or adding commands just distance.Now the Bronx exp part that's different but I agree with you.
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Yea b\c of the stopping at stations but it can be copied from the (B).Lets say the (D) make it run local in the Bronx as it is all the way to 145th and the (B) from 145th can be copied and pasted so it'll make the (D) a fully local route but the distances would have to be changed which isn't bad so it isn't changing or adding commands just distance.Now the Bronx exp part that's different but I agree with you.
No, I don't think you understand me. Let's say you have the A, and want to make it local. There is no switch command, there is a turn command, and it's tricky. Once you tamper with the turn command, it moves everything after it. So if I want to make the A local, it'll be easier to take the first little part of it before it goes express, and re-write it from there. Station commands, there is nothing easier than that. Believe me, if it was that easy, we'd have the <V>, <C>, (2) LCL, etc.
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Yea b\c of the stopping at stations but it can be copied from the (B).Lets say the (D) make it run local in the Bronx as it is all the way to 145th and the (B) from 145th can be copied and pasted so it'll make the (D) a fully local route but the distances would have to be changed which isn't bad so it isn't changing or adding commands just distance.Now the Bronx exp part that's different but I agree with you.
No, I don't think you understand me. Let's say you have the A, and want to make it local. There is no switch command, there is a turn command, and it's tricky. Once you tamper with the turn command, it moves everything after it. So if I want to make the A local, it'll be easier to take the first little part of it before it goes express, and re-write it from there. Station commands, there is nothing easier than that. Believe me, if it was that easy, we'd have the <V>, <C>, (2) LCL, etc.
I'll take your word for that! :)
There are so many re-routes possible we can have a (D) via 8th Avenue to Lefferts Blvd its not changing or adding commands its just removing after 125th or 59th from the (D) and pasting the (A)'s codes and changing the distances & also announcements people would FOAM over that.
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Can't you copy after the turn command, re-write that one part, and paste and BAM you got it?
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Sometimes it's that easy, other times not. If you were making a local version of the (A), all you'd need to do is copy in the (C) after 168th and make a turn command around Euclid Avenue. That one is easy.
If you wanted to make a local version of the (F), the process would be the same, copy in the (M) from 36th Street to Forest Hills, but you'd have to revise distances, not to mention the current (F) release runs express on Hillside Avenue.
If there's enough demand (and if the original developers approve of it), I'm sure people new to coding could do things such as these in order to get their feet wet and reduce the number of requests.
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for stuff like the 2 it's not easy at all. The 1 runs in a different direction from the 2 and the 3, so you'd have to code everything in yourself. Some say it's faster since you have the objects and stuff but it's still coding
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Can't you copy after the turn command, re-write that one part, and paste and BAM you got it?
You can only copy stuff before the .turn command.
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Oh okay i totally understand, well I will put my research into it. But the .turn command i dont what to put is it like a freeobj command?
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I not to good with .turn command, but if u look at my line b/w 180-181 sts and 190 st, I used the turn command twice. Look at the coding and tht might help u out. :o
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Oh okay i totally understand, well I will put my research into it. But the .turn command i dont what to put is it like a freeobj command?
the . turn command is what you would use to make a switch. I don't even know how it works. Hopefully someone else could explain it
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Oh okay i totally understand, well I will put my research into it. But the .turn command i dont what to put is it like a freeobj command?
the . turn command is what you would use to make a switch. I don't even know how it works. Hopefully someone else could explain it
Jose is right. But the trick is u hve to move everything by 2. For example:
46800,.turn -0.08,.wallend 1,.wallend 0,.railtype 0;0,.railstart 2;0;0;9,.railstart 4;-6;0;0,.railstart 5;-2;0;0,.railstart 6;2;0;0,.railstart 7;4;0;0,.freeobj 2;40;0;0;0,.freeobj 2;743;0;0;0,.rail 3;-4;0;0,.freeobj 2;45;0;0;0,.freeobj 1;43;0;0;0,
46825,.rail 1;-2;0;8,.freeobj 2;743;0;0;0,.rail 2;2;0;9,.rail 3;-2;0;0,.freeobj 2;45;0;0;0,.freeobj 3;43;0;0;0,.railtype 0;0
46850,.turn 0.08,.rail 1;0;0;0,.rail 2;4;0;9,.freeobj 0;407;0;0;180,.railend 3,.railend 4,.railend 5,.railend 6,.railend 7,.railtype 0;8,.wall 0;r;33,.freeobj 2;45;0;0;0,
46870,.signal 2;A3 1520;1.5;3.5,.freeobj 0;17;0;0;0,.freeobj 0;21;1.5;2.5;0,.freeobj 2;21;1.5;3.5;0,.freeobj 2;17;0;0;0,
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The .turn is the hardest thing to do. It takes plenty of practice.
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Turn function is not easy at all, you would have to modify everything after your diverge, especially the new positions of the rails in order to make rail 0 run local then.
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Oh okay i totally understand, well I will put my research into it. But the .turn command i dont what to put is it like a freeobj command?
.turn and .rail essentially do the same thing to the rails. I find .rail easier to use because .turn requires some math to figure out the decimal value
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This topic is turning out to be a "CVS commands" topic.
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This topic is turning out to be a "CVS commands" topic.
Because this topic involves the commands as well...so we are talking about the right topic
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This topic is turning out to be a "CVS commands" topic.
If you understand even the basics of coding, you would understand that you would need to know these commands to start a route. Especially one that involves an act of switching to another track. Plus its "CSV," so like what Slants4Lyfe said, this is 100% relevant to the current topic.
Good luck DFNQ! If you're doing that it would be great to see it go to 96th cause you can simulate the shuttle bus GOs that happened a few weeks ago. Plus, the skeleton is already made up to that point with minimal detail so you could do some object coding as well!
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No it isn't. And I'm pretty sure he used BRR, and not the .turn command, so therefore the commands being suggested in this topic are irrelevant.
It was already proven that this was not possible but i'm not going to be the only pessimist(I usually end up being wrong most of the time anyway :D). If you think you can do this then by all means, go ahead.
BStyles
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No it isn't. And I'm pretty sure he used BRR, and not the .turn command, so therefore the commands being suggested in this topic are irrelevant.
It was already proven that this was not possible but i'm not going to be the only pessimist(I usually end up being wrong most of the time anyway :D). If you think you can do this then by all means, go ahead.
BStyles
Actually Styles is half correct lol.
Trying it in newtown gave it some difficulty. It would crash soon as the train hits 18th Street. But its a work in progress. However thanks to jup he showed me how to use the .turn command so its possible . Just have to figure out where to edit so that I don't destroy the document and I can make it local from chambers Street
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Actually Styles is half correct lol.
Trying it in newtown gave it some difficulty. It would crash soon as the train hits 18th Street. But its a work in progress. However thanks to jup he showed me how to use the .turn command so its possible . Just have to figure out where to edit so that I don't destroy the document and I can make it local from chambers Street
Yeah, don't use brr'd routes on Newtown. I tried it once and crashed the whole server...
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Damn the whole server?
Well its project in the making lol. Hope that a break through can come out of this
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Newtown was meant to handle 1 consistent route file between all users. If you use a modified route, then you are presenting the possibility for more problems to arise.
Which I cant fix, since you guys aren't following the directions in the instruction manual. ;)
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Newtown was meant to handle 1 consistent route file between all users. If you use a modified route, then you are presenting the possibility for more problems to arise.
Which I cant fix, since you guys aren't following the directions in the instruction manual. ;)
Can this book be rented from the library lol jk jk.
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is it going to be compatible with all versions of BVE? or just openBVE. i really dont care as i have openBVE i just want to know
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is it going to be compatible with all versions of BVE? or just openBVE. i really dont care as i have openBVE i just want to know
God gave you eyes to read! Please read from the beginning all the way to your comment.
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I had to respond to this. The .Turn command is not hard to use. It's simple. If you are switching a train from left to right, it's always going to be .Turn 0.08 then .Turn -0.08. There are special instances where there is .Turn 0.16. But rare. It's an easy command. My 1969 Shuttle has a .Turn command in it right before Prospect Park.
Also, coding an express to a local is not hard, it's Tedious and can get confusing. The best thing to do in that situation is code both local and the express at the same time. Meaning if you start an express route and want a local as well, after you complete each station, you do the same for the local.
Having said that, once I receive the necessary permissions, there will be some updated lines soon that I will be working on with different runs.
7th Avenue makes for a fun run.......... ;)
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I just created a B train that runs via C into Brooklyn after 59th Street. I most likely release it, unless I get permission from the authors
Your main guy is Joe aka Phantom909.
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Thx. ;)
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I had to respond to this. The .Turn command is not hard to use. It's simple. If you are switching a train from left to right, it's always going to be .Turn 0.08 then .Turn -0.08. There are special instances where there is .Turn 0.16. But rare. It's an easy command. My 1969 Shuttle has a .Turn command in it right before Prospect Park.
Also, coding an express to a local is not hard, it's Tedious and can get confusing. The best thing to do in that situation is code both local and the express at the same time. Meaning if you start an express route and want a local as well, after you complete each station, you do the same for the local.
Having said that, once I receive the necessary permissions, there will be some updated lines soon that I will be working on with different runs.
7th Avenue makes for a fun run.......... ;)
Thank you TJay. You helped me!
Also the B and C re-routes are almost done by Bebo and myself. When we contact the right authors it will be released under Bebo. Until then I will restart route building classes after I release the <9>.