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Title: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on September 14, 2011, 11:23:19 pm
I think it's about time I publicly announced this..most of you may know anyway, but for those who don't I am making an R32 for OpenBVE.

I have made considerable progress on this project (without ever announcing, originally intended to be a surprise for you guys) for almost a year now, and the project is nearing completion at this point; I just need to tweak the sounds a bit, one more texture and a panel, and it's good to go.

Here's what I spent all night tonight doing..thanks to my good friend kawasakir160 for giving me the R32 textures :)

(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2170/r32progress.png)

I'll post a video soon featuring the new motor sounds..stay tuned!
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: SubwayTrainOperator5 on September 15, 2011, 12:05:59 am
Nice. It's about time we had a new R32. I'm guessing it will have Nelson3001's panel, if I'm not mistaken? Will this train have an interior in the end aswell?
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on September 15, 2011, 01:34:25 pm
Thanks, as for the panel he has not contacted me about it yet..if he does not come through with the panel then I will release it with a modified version of DJ Hammers' panel.

The train right now does not have an interior as I do not have access to one nor do I know how to make one; if anyone would like to contribute to this during or after development, that will be very much appreciated as well.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Simon on September 15, 2011, 04:36:34 pm
Great job to you and kawasaki160 for providing us with a top quality 32 side texture. Error, will the exterior be as detailed as Bstyles's and co's trains?
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Mr Railfan on September 15, 2011, 06:34:00 pm
i will try and get New Panel pics of the r32 this sunday so i can create a photo realistic cab for you.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: kawasakir160 on September 15, 2011, 07:13:50 pm
excellent work error, keep up the good work lol
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Shawn1995 on September 15, 2011, 08:06:21 pm
First the R46 now the R32! Your on a roll!
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Rayvon on September 15, 2011, 08:21:50 pm
nice, you have the updated .dat and run sounds right?
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: nelson3001 on September 17, 2011, 10:24:22 pm
Thanks, as for the panel he has not contacted me about it yet..if he does not come through with the panel then I will release it with a modified version of DJ Hammers' panel.

The train right now does not have an interior as I do not have access to one nor do I know how to make one; if anyone would like to contribute to this during or after development, that will be very much appreciated as well.
By when do you need the panel? It's about 90% done.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on September 18, 2011, 12:04:32 am
Whenever  you have it done, send it to me. Check your private messages box for further details.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: nelson3001 on September 18, 2011, 03:03:28 pm
Whenever  you have it done, send it to me. Check your private messages box for further details.
I think Mr. Railfan can make the panel better because he can add ambient light and other advanced features I do not know how to do. After I finish I will send both of you the panel.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on September 18, 2011, 07:10:59 pm
ok thats not a problem..like i said send me it whenever you're ready.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: SubwayTrainOperator5 on September 20, 2011, 01:16:28 am
Are you going to have beta testing for this train? Because if you are, I'd gladly be a tester ;D
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on September 20, 2011, 11:10:50 pm
Sorry, but I will not be doing public beta-testing for any more projects as it is too time-consuming and may compromise the integrity of the project.
I will however try to expedite this project and hope to have it out by the end of December the latest though.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Rayvon on September 21, 2011, 07:26:47 pm
Sorry, but I will not be doing public beta-testing for any more projects as it is too time-consuming and may compromise the integrity of the project.
I will however try to expedite this project and hope to have it out by the end of December the latest though.
Send me what you have error, I'll tweak the breaks a bit and stuff since I got some more info this week.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: nelson3001 on September 22, 2011, 07:49:27 pm
Sorry, but I will not be doing public beta-testing for any more projects as it is too time-consuming and may compromise the integrity of the project.
I will however try to expedite this project and hope to have it out by the end of December the latest though.
I think I can finish the panel by October 1st or 2nd. I have a screenshot in the other post. Why not move it into this thread?[img=http://s2.postimage.org/u8p203s4/sheet036_r33wf.jpg] (http://postimage.org/image/u8p203s4/)
Btw, this can be used for the R33-WF made by Mr. Railfan.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: nelson3001 on September 23, 2011, 09:42:51 pm
Btw, @Error, can I get the train to check it out? Just to let you know, this panel you are gonna get will need a power controller because I could not find any good pictures of the controller(I will use Mr.R&R's brake handle). Mr. Railfan might help with that. My panel includes everything such as the DoorOn and Off, the PrsBack, etc.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: SubwayTrainOperator5 on September 23, 2011, 09:53:49 pm
Btw, @Error, can I get the train to check it out? Just to let you know, this panel you are gonna get will need a power controller because I could not find any good pictures of the controller(I will use Mr.R&R's brake handle). Mr. Railfan might help with that. My panel includes everything such as the DoorOn and Off, the PrsBack, etc.

Perhaps you could ask Mr Railfan for permission to use his power controller from his R42?
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: MegaChulo95 on September 23, 2011, 10:17:09 pm
go to http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/jtr1962/NYC%20SUBWAY%20CABS/?start=all (http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/jtr1962/NYC%20SUBWAY%20CABS/?start=all)

They have all NYC Cab
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: SubwayTrainOperator5 on September 23, 2011, 10:39:48 pm
go to http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/jtr1962/NYC%20SUBWAY%20CABS/?start=all (http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/jtr1962/NYC%20SUBWAY%20CABS/?start=all)

They have all NYC Cab

Not all cabs, that album is missing pictures of the R62/A and R142/A cabs. But it has great R32 cab pictures, for reference to making this train.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: nelson3001 on September 23, 2011, 11:04:24 pm
I got the pics from that website. Those are (6)-Pelham Bay Park to Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall's pictures. I was gonna put his name in the credits.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: MegaChulo95 on September 24, 2011, 11:04:14 am
Hey error r u going to get the sound from your sound website  :D
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on September 24, 2011, 11:20:06 am
Yes all the sounds featured on my sound recording site has been used by me one way or another.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: SubwayTrainOperator5 on September 24, 2011, 12:59:52 pm
Yes all the sounds featured on my sound recording site has been used by me one way or another.

I remember a while back when you posted a video on YouTube of you driving an R32 of some sorts on the (L) Line. Will this R32 be the same one as that one, just with some updated sounds and stuff?
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on September 24, 2011, 03:20:51 pm
The R32 for OpenBVE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdWusMZQ-W0#)

If you mean this then yes.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Sewayne on September 24, 2011, 04:00:26 pm
I wanna see the outside of the train.  :-\
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: SubwayTrainOperator5 on September 24, 2011, 06:39:45 pm
I wanna see the outside of the train.  :-\

He posted a screenshot of the exterior on Page 1...
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: (J)-Broad St,Manhattan to Jamaica Center Parsons/Archer,Qnz. on September 26, 2011, 03:53:41 pm
I got the pics from that website. Those are (6)-Pelham Bay Park to Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall's pictures. I was gonna put his name in the credits.

Yepp,that is my page :D
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: SubwayTrainOperator5 on September 26, 2011, 04:59:20 pm
I got the pics from that website. Those are (6)-Pelham Bay Park to Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall's pictures. I was gonna put his name in the credits.

Yepp,that is my page :D

So, YOU'RE that Jtr1962 guy. Interesting
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on September 29, 2011, 12:28:42 am
Preview video coming soon guys :)
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: SubwayTrainOperator5 on September 29, 2011, 12:57:13 am
Preview video coming soon guys :)

Interesting. Looking forward to hearing what the new sounds are like. Will the video feature Nelson's panel or just that edited R33ML panel again?
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on September 29, 2011, 02:14:43 pm
I don't have an official copy of Nelson's panel yet, but it doesn't matter as this video focuses more on the exterior view:

The R32 for OpenBVE - Final Preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF9_JjfBv3M#)
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: MegaChulo95 on September 29, 2011, 08:48:01 pm
What happen to the hole video of the train
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Dj Hammers on September 29, 2011, 09:02:09 pm
lol.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: bnjypov on September 29, 2011, 09:15:30 pm
wow... great sounds!! I could swear it sounds like rick astley: http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/schem/ (http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/schem/)  ....
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Rikabs on September 29, 2011, 09:34:07 pm
Awesome song. Great chorus. Sounds smooth. Clear. Professional. Keep us all posted on your new R32 tribute songs or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' heartfelt, respectful, and gracious you can be. Thanks for the motivation.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on September 30, 2011, 03:22:55 pm
Alright all jokes aside here's a real video
The R32 for OpenBVE - Final Preview Video (for real this time) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR1TzrHKY6g#)

The panel featured is still my hastily-modified R33 panel from DJ Hammers, I haven't had a copy of the photopanel yet when I do that will be included with the actual release.
As for the exterior view, it will not be animated (for now anyway).
The train is almost done, just waiting for the panel mostly and a few tweaks here and there and I should be able to have it out by the end of the year the latest.

Also FYI after this I will work on updating both R160s, and finally the R46.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Dj Hammers on September 30, 2011, 04:44:32 pm
As always, very nice work error. I'd assume this is a phase I R32, as we already have a phase II R32 released.

I was hoping to see the R46 and it's exterior at the #1 spot on the priority list to be finished but then again an R160 with animated doors would be nice as well.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on September 30, 2011, 05:03:36 pm
Well the 46 is being worked on as well, however the 160 is long due for an update and I have made considerable changes to it over time to the point where it's time for a new update to be released..I might even release all 3 at the same time if the 46 can get done fast enough lol
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: LowerEastSide1117 on September 30, 2011, 07:06:28 pm
that would be nice ;D
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: MegaChulo95 on September 30, 2011, 10:01:23 pm
She looking pretty good
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: nelson3001 on September 30, 2011, 11:25:51 pm
The panel will probably be finished by tomorrow or next weekend. Tomorrow after I enjoy the Hampton Inn's pool and hot chocolate (lol imma sneak like 10 hot chocolates out) the panel will be tweaked and finished.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Simon on September 30, 2011, 11:51:10 pm
Sounds great! You nailed the initial acceleration spot on, however there are a few pointers I would like to give.

1. The initial notes you got spot on, but something just sounds a little off after the 25 mph mark and onward. The pitch seems a bit off, maybe you could look into that before release. Might be just me though.

2. The deceleration needs a bit more work. I think it has something to do with the pitch, but when 32 (C)s decelerate the pitch is high and it sounds like a 44 decelerating and it's also more dramatic. Then again, your 32 might be different from whatever phases are on the (C) today.

3. In real life, at around the 3mph mark when the train is decelerating, 32s slide and make a distinctive break noise along with a powerful jerking motion (insert joke here  ;)). Maybe you can set that noise as part of the deceleration motor like what you did with the Siemens.

Other than that, the rest of the sounds you got right! Great job, typical of an error product!  :)
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: MegaChulo95 on October 01, 2011, 07:57:42 am
Are you going to  make a thread for thr R46 and the R160
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on October 01, 2011, 10:44:45 am
Thanks guys! I have gotten a few complaints about the braking noise, I actually got those recordings from an R68 lol (blame pitkin yard for insisting on keeping their hvacs on full blast -__- ) but I'll try my best to fix it..

Thanks for updating us on the panel @nelson3001;

As for the other threads:
http://forums.bvestation.com/index.php?topic=1010.0 (http://forums.bvestation.com/index.php?topic=1010.0) - R46
http://forums.bvestation.com/index.php?topic=446.15 (http://forums.bvestation.com/index.php?topic=446.15)
http://forums.bvestation.com/index.php?topic=605.0 (http://forums.bvestation.com/index.php?topic=605.0)
R160
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Fox-179 on October 01, 2011, 02:22:53 pm
Sounds great! And Simon nailed the things that needed work.
One suggestion but this may be hard to implement but it was done with the 142A.When the train takes power maybe can you add the bucking sound around like 3 mph.
Like SIR's 142A when u release the brakes from Full Service and go max power you hear the boom(buck).
I hear it nearly all the time when in the front of a 32 by the T/O.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Dj Hammers on October 02, 2011, 09:56:14 am
error46146 you should check this photo out for the cab:
(http://images.nycsubway.org/i128000/img_128209.jpg)
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: nelson3001 on October 02, 2011, 10:12:03 am
error46146 you should check this photo out for the cab:
(http://images.nycsubway.org/i128000/img_128209.jpg)
That looks like an R68 controller put into the R32 but it's useable.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Smooth23 on October 02, 2011, 11:42:30 am
It is a R68 controller. Only the R68 & R62 have somewhat identical controllers since they are basically the same train just for different divisions
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Fox-179 on October 02, 2011, 12:59:50 pm
It is a R68 controller. Only the R68 & R62 have somewhat identical controllers since they are basically the same train just for different divisions
You mean the R-62A and R-68/A have similar controllers.
The R-32 and 62 are very alike.
Nice find DJ it would be nice to see a bit of the grills as part of the cab.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Rayvon on October 03, 2011, 06:25:14 pm
I tweaked the performance to be as close to the real thing as I could, but there are some variables I can't properly add in right now like the switch to Dynamic Braking. Great work on the exterior error
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: MegaChulo95 on October 08, 2011, 06:17:12 pm
Hey error are you going to make a 8 car set like the C Train ;D
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Fox-179 on October 08, 2011, 07:32:20 pm
I tweaked the performance to be as close to the real thing as I could, but there are some variables I can't properly add in right now like the switch to Dynamic Braking. Great work on the exterior error
We should be able to come in 42nd at least 45 mph and make a perfect 8 car stop without full service all the way right?! ;)
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: R62A 2067 on October 08, 2011, 07:58:24 pm
I tweaked the performance to be as close to the real thing as I could, but there are some variables I can't properly add in right now like the switch to Dynamic Braking. Great work on the exterior error
We should be able to come in 42nd at least 45 mph and make a perfect 8 car stop without full service all the way right?! ;)

I hope it does!
With error's R142A which goes up to B5, go directly to B5 when I enter a station at like 40+ and it over runs often.
With SIR's R142A which goes up the B3, I underrun alot..Well the only time I overran with SIR's R142A is when I switched to B3 near the middle of the station at 44-45 MPH..
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Rayvon on October 08, 2011, 08:28:52 pm
45 if you're lucky, 40 yes. I've been testing my values for months now and I finally got them down to a T
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Fox-179 on October 08, 2011, 09:17:14 pm
45 if you're lucky, 40 yes. I've been testing my values for months now and I finally got them down to a T
It shouldn't be lucky at 45 maybe 50.The 46's can make a good stop at 45 or 46 but at the 10 car mark.
40 is too slow for 42nd anyways thats about the speed for coming in 14th.
http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=480155&postcount=42 (http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=480155&postcount=42)
there's a problem if these trains being developed are not reaching certain speeds and braking too good or too bad.
The R-46 and 68 are really good IMO really accurate also the 38.Lacking are the 32,42(brakes should be worst).
The speed and braking testing points should be 59th to 42nd,34th to 14th(8th Av) 34th to W4th 6th Av,Hoyt to Nostrand.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: R62A 2067 on October 08, 2011, 10:30:08 pm
LMAO my 68 by Mr.Railfan took a few minutes to climb up the Man. Bridge slowly....
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Rayvon on October 08, 2011, 11:46:14 pm
45 if you're lucky, 40 yes. I've been testing my values for months now and I finally got them down to a T
It shouldn't be lucky at 45 maybe 50.The 46's can make a good stop at 45 or 46 but at the 10 car mark.
40 is too slow for 42nd anyways thats about the speed for coming in 14th.
http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=480155&postcount=42 (http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=480155&postcount=42)
there's a problem if these trains being developed are not reaching certain speeds and braking too good or too bad.
The R-46 and 68 are really good IMO really accurate also the 38.Lacking are the 32,42(brakes should be worst).
The speed and braking testing points should be 59th to 42nd,34th to 14th(8th Av) 34th to W4th 6th Av,Hoyt to Nostrand.
if you're talking about express then yeah you'll hit those speeds. I know what I'm doing
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Fox-179 on October 09, 2011, 08:01:34 am
Great! I wouldn't want to overrun any station I or anyone else should make a complete stop at while hitting those speeds! ;)
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Port Washington Local on October 09, 2011, 12:09:22 pm
Nice work on the physics of the train, guys. Can't wait til this actually makes its way out. :)

I intend to haul ass in this thing. lol
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Fox-179 on October 09, 2011, 03:51:46 pm
Nice work on the physics of the train, guys. Can't wait til this actually makes its way out. :)

I intend to haul ass in this thing. lol
Of course with the good 'ol mighty hauling 32! The Fox would be perfect!
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: nelson3001 on October 17, 2011, 06:19:36 pm
I'm sorry the panel is taking so long to complete. I'm very busy with school and homework. Brooklyn Tech H.S. isn't an easy school to be in but alot of work has been done on the panel.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: SubwayTrainOperator5 on October 17, 2011, 07:14:27 pm
I'm sorry the panel is taking so long to complete. I'm very busy with school and homework. Brooklyn Tech H.S. isn't an easy school to be in but alot of work has been done on the panel.

Could you post a screenshot of how it looks now?
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: 2 and 5 train master on October 17, 2011, 07:19:02 pm
I'm sorry the panel is taking so long to complete. I'm very busy with school and homework. Brooklyn Tech H.S. isn't an easy school to be in but alot of work has been done on the panel.
please post a screen shot


Could you post a screenshot of how it looks now?
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: metzfan on October 23, 2011, 08:40:44 pm
can you release a test train like SIR does with the r142
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: MegaChulo95 on November 02, 2011, 05:04:57 pm
Is the R32 going to have the 8 set and the 10 set
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: Fox-179 on November 02, 2011, 07:48:42 pm
Is the R32 going to have the 8 set and the 10 set
Its not going to matter.I would suppose the 32 will be packaged like the R-38 and 68 with 2,4,6,8,10 car sets.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: error46146 on December 18, 2011, 11:36:32 am
To simplify things, the R32 will be released in an 8-car set, with instructions on how to modify it to a 10-car set.

The panel is coming along well thanks to nelson3001, and I will begin work on it again soon once I find time to.
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: nelson3001 on December 18, 2011, 01:56:43 pm
The panel is coming along well thanks to nelson3001, and I will begin work on it again soon once I find time to.
Also, to add to what he said, the panel will have an R68 style controller because there was not enough textures for an original one which is one of the reasons I stopped working on the panel for a while. Some R32's have the R68 style power controller so it's still photorealistic.
If anybody can get some textures i'll be glad to put it into a second modified version of the panel which i'll do if someone sends me the pictures. After I send the panel to Bill, he'll edit it and fix the few flaws it has. To give you all some eye candy, here's a picture:




(http://s12.postimage.org/t0sutalfx/Untitled1234567.png) (http://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: SubwayTrainOperator5 on December 19, 2011, 01:23:35 am
The panel is coming along well thanks to nelson3001, and I will begin work on it again soon once I find time to.
Also, to add to what he said, the panel will have an R68 style controller because there was not enough textures for an original one which is one of the reasons I stopped working on the panel for a while. Some R32's have the R68 style power controller so it's still photorealistic.
If anybody can get some textures i'll be glad to put it into a second modified version of the panel which i'll do if someone sends me the pictures. After I send the panel to Bill, he'll edit it and fix the few flaws it has. To give you all some eye candy, here's a picture:




(http://s12.postimage.org/t0sutalfx/Untitled1234567.png) (http://postimage.org/)

Looks awesome. It would be nice to have a real SMEE GE controller, but it is good enough for now. Just a bit of constructive criticism, the brake stand should be just slightly bigger than the power controller stand, and the power control stand looks like it should be just a tiny bit more to the right. And you can improve the pressure gauge too, to look more realistic. But it is very good!
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: rstar on December 28, 2011, 02:22:03 pm
The R32 is looking good keep up the good work and I love the cab. ;D
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: rstar on March 30, 2012, 03:50:04 pm
How about this picture http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?104078 (http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?104078)
Title: Re: The R32 for OpenBVE
Post by: BStyles on April 06, 2012, 10:50:20 pm
Can't just use pictures off of NYCSubway.org, like that. You need permission in order to do so. You might as well get them while you still can.

BStyles